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11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
Mike Vinson continues to flame his family members live on bible-studies. There is no more revealing thing than the way a man interacts and speaks about his family, in my opinion. Here are the YouTube links, for those interested in hearing this man:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
Hello again to the forum. I have recently added another video to my YouTube channel where Mike Vinson is now stating that those without the cult-group literally "hate" the group, and also, he states that there are those who want to literally physically crucify members of the group. Here is a transcript of the audio from a recent Atlanta December 2012 conference: Female voice:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
Rick, I wanted to thank you for your expert appraisal of the IWWB group. This provides some vindication for myself, especially since leaving the group of my own accord, and having waded into unknown waters as far as exposing this group for the benefit of other spiritual seekers who may feel led to become involved. Sadly however, it seems that individuals such as Robin K are unable to be swaye
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
@Rick - you asked: "Are the IWWB members the "we" that will judge?" Yes, IWWB teach and believe that they, with their superior knowledge, will be future world leaders and that when Jesus appears bodily again, they will be transformed into spiritual overlords who will rule the earth with "a rod of iron." Vinson has stated that during this time (known as the mil
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
Rick - Mitchell Kuhn, a prominent IWWB elder was asked that very question that you have posed to Robin. Mitchell's answer as to whether IWWB was the only true group out of the 7 billion people on the planet is as follows: "...There is to be unity in the body and the body knows the Truth. Yes, there very well may be other faithful brothers somewhere in the world and they too will hav
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
Robin, you said: "I kinda get the feeling that you think that truth equals large numbers of believers...if you believe something that hardly anyone else believes, then it cant be true ... am I right assuming that?" If you can be honest with yourself Robin, the doctrine of UR (Universal Reconciliation) is quite popular and particularly today, there are many internet based teachers and
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
As a follow up to my prior post, here are some articles/questions on Vinson's site which ought to give some weight to my claims of "black and white" thinking that is rife within IWWB. Article: Gods Elect Should Never Allow Orthodox Ministers to Publicly Pray for Them Link: Article: Does God Cause Child Molestation? (Hint: That's a resounding "YES" according t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
RobinKorevaar - thank you again for your interaction and comments although it is obvious to me you are engaging more in "damage control" than in serious debate about IWWB and Mike Vinson. You keep asking who I am - and yet, we have interacted on FaceBook and YouTube about the issues of Mike Vinson. Your last comment to me on FaceBook came with an ultimatum: you would only "answe
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
RobinKorevaar - thank you for the reply but unfortunately, it seems you did not address the concerns I raised excepting a few here and there about the "dominion over sin" quotes. They were not taken out of context and Vinson was not speaking of the future, he was referencing himself and talking to his disciples, letting them know that for them, "the day comes" when they too ca
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
As an update to my previous post, here are some words penned by Vinson which demonstrate the cult leanings of the groups teaching: QuoteMike VinsonWe, the elect, don’t make friends with those of the world or church because we know that people who do are the enemy of God… QuoteMike VinsonAs a matter of fact, we, the elect, consider no one our friend unless they first keep Christ’s commandment
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
In reply to the two "brothers" who have posted above (BRIAN032352 and RobinKorevaar) - IWWB does unfortunately fulfil the mandate for a cult group. Allow me to address the comments of RobinKorevaar first: He/She says: "I never have paid any money to anybody nor am I in any way pressured to do so..." The teaching from Vinson and IWWB is clear. Mike Vinson says you are to b
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
I now have a YouTube video channel up where prospective members can hear for themselves the cult-inspired teaching straight from Vinson and the elders mouths. Additionally, there is a new emphasis on money with one of the elders now declaring that there are "wages due" to Mike Vinson. The video channel is here:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
*UPDATE* As user "The Anticult" warned, Mike Vinson and his IWWB group are now asking folks for money. I suppose it was a logical progression, being that more and more, this group is embracing an elitist and sheltered mentality. You can read the new document that has been written on this topic at the link below. Suffice to say, Vinson and his "elders" are requesting thos
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
Hello again. Just wanted to add that Mike Vinson and IWWB promote many of the same doctrines that the World Wide Church of God do. Mike Vinson was once a part of this movement as were many current members. They emphasize scriptures such as "you shall be hated of all men" (Mt. 10:22) and "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan... I will make them to come and worship befo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
Hey there SOTP, sorry to hear about your family member caught up in this movement. You ask: "Is this a small group of people?" Yes, I believe it is although for conferences et al, they do get a turn-out of between up to 20-30 people. Many people are involved with the group via message-boards, Skype and email so while they may not personally attend, they are definitely a part of the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
@The Anticult - Mike Vinson is retired I believe. I can't honestly say he's a money-hungry guy or that this is his motivation. As I say, it has all the markings of a cult in that we have the charismatic spiritual leader, a small fiercely guarded band of followers, zero-tolerance policy on questioning, an MO to spread the message et al. People who do fork out for the expenditure that i
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
@The Anticult - you ask, how is he getting paid? That's the thing; he isn't per say. Well, at least as far as I know he isn't. Some members have coughed up large amounts of cash to host the regular and ongoing conferences and to fly him around internationally but as far as I know, there is no financial motive happening. It's definitely a cult in so-much as it's behavi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
Sorry folks, I forgot to add that one of the hallmarks that this group is exhibiting cult-like behavior is the teaching that apart from themselves, all other spiritual groups and movements are (and I quote) "of their father the devil." Mike Vinson has been questioned numerous times as to whether his is the only group "teaching truth." His answer is that there may be other g
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
Truth_Seeker_78
Hi there to the forum. I am writing to advise people of a spiritual movement that goes by the name of IWWB. Website: It's headed up by a chap named Mike Vinson, a former WWCG (World Wide Church of God) member who now believes he has "the truth" and among other things, preaches and teaches that he "no longer sins" or rather, that sin has no more dominion over him. T
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