Thank you for your post Link. A great reminder to never abdicate one's own authority 100% to ANYBODY. Even if someone else does know the truth and you follow it, because it then comes from someone else it will never feel right and your life as you know it may just worsen. But it is kind of a good thing to be in the place you are in, even though it doesn't feel like it, it just ta
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"Holding on to anger at someone is like taking poison and hoping the other person dies."
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kdag: I was not advocating positive thinking. Positive thinking is attempting to plaster a positive thought on top of a negative belief. That won't help. I was advocating letting go of judging good and bad. bakkagirl: I was not advocating people join the NVC cult or blindly follow anything they say. I quoted Marshall Rosenberg because I thought he said something valuable about how
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Hi kdag: It seems to me you are saying that bitterness, disgust, judgmentalness, blame, and feeling betrayed are all a big help to you, and proper order, and counseling helps you resolve it so you have a delightful little loop going. I'm happy if that works for you. I actually mean that. Most people try too quickly to drop their real feelings and end up being phoney. Better to at least
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kdag, You said: "... during a time of crisis is not the best time to wax philosophical." I disagree. If someone is in emotional pain, if they are not going to look at what they are doing to cause it and instead reach for the bottle, or a reallove member to love them, then they simply keep the loop going; so yes a crisis is the best time for discovery. Regarding what I said:
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Hello kdag: As I see it we have three ways to combat cults. 1. Make ourselves beyond the need for cults. 2. Publicize their doings such as on this board. 3. Lawsuits It seems to me the purpose of government is to protect us from unethical harmful people, so lawsuits are a valuable way. I've noticed the Nxivm cult is falling apart as a result of lawsuits, criminal prosecution and pub
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Almost constant judging of good and evil in my opinion explains a lot of the rampant depression, drug addiction and emotional pain epidemic. Try going a whole day without doing this, or even a whole hour. As soon as we judge someone, anyone as bad, we create negative painful emotions which we then dramatize, bury, anaesthetize or run from. Cults are one way we run from or attempt to soothe pa
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rrmoderator: I am posting here with an agenda for truth. Please quote what I said that you feel denigrates someone's personal experience. I have pointed out many falsehoods, hypocrisy and contradictions with the Reallove cult. When anyone, and I'm not saying anyone has, but when anyone judges good and bad they have harmed their argument, and created negative emotions... the ver
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Hi Dingo, Nice to hear from you. As I see it: Discrimination is when you clearly see true from false. Judgement is when you make things "good" and "bad." Discrimination is helpful. Judgement is not helpful and is in fact destructive. If you think your past time in Reallove© was "bad" naturally you may feel miserable about it. What if it wasn't b
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Thanks for your posts, I've really enjoyed reading them. I think one of the things to avoid is black and white thinking. Reallove® is a mixed bag. It's got some really good ideas, some questionable ones and some obvious false premises. To really help people with this, imo, one needs to acknowledge the good, which is to say validate what is true. Until someone feels validated they wil
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The Magical Kitchen by Miguel Ruiz Imagine that you have a magical kitchen in your home. In that magical kitchen, you can have any food you want from any place in the world in any quantity. You never worry about what to eat; whatever you wish for, you can have at your table. You are very generous with your food; you give your food unconditionally to others, not because you want something in re
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We are "emptied out," by worry, anger, fear, "getting and protecting behaviors"... true enough. We are filled up by unconditional acceptance. When we feel "empty" (worried, upset, angry, grief, fear) if we bring unconditional acceptance to the feeling, allow the feeling, welcome the feeling... then bringing unconditional acceptance to it and allowing the feeli
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One of the things about unconditional love is that we all have equal value. From the eyes of love we are all exactly the same worth. With RealLove® Greg Baer has staked out the position in which he is the person in high status and you are the person of low status. He has even referred to his followers as "baby dependents" and that dependency is a good thing for babies . There are
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Dingo I have to disagree with you on a few points. First of all Family Counselors in general are woefully inadequate. There is a very low bar of entry into the field and many, if not most of them are misguided, sorry to say. Little clarity on boundaries, victimhood, or trauma, and often encouragement for people to try to medicate their feelings as an avoidance strategy. Secondly, you said some
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Dingo, you said Greg Baer has borderline narcissistic tendencies. This man is full on NPD . I will give you an example. 1. "Reallove" is copyrighted and solely owned by Greg Baer. 2. "Everything is about "reallove". In other words everything is about Greg Baer. Only a full on NPD could come out with something like this. Just one example of many, many. This
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There seems to be 2 reallove cult message boards but in case you have not read my previous post on how to get someone out of reallove here is what I wrote: Suggestions if someone you know is involved with the reallove cult. 1. Do not attack or criticise reallove or Greg Baer. This only creates hostility and you will be seen as the enemy. 2. One of the principles of reallove is that couples
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Hi Dingo, thanks for your posts. I'm curious if you know anything about why Reallove uk closed down? Also, I had not heard about people required to get naked and be "reborn", is that a new thing? Did that have anything to do with why they had to shutdown the uk group? Also, I hope people checking into Mormonism check out youtube on how much of Joseph Smith's crazy stuff
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Thanks for writing that corboy. Almost always people getting involved with a group like this will have personal boundary issues. A person with soft boundaries, someone that is unable to set rules and limits on how others are allowed to behave towards them, will not only find themselves often angry and upset for going against their own heart, but will be easy to manipulate. Having some coach o
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Another basic flaw with this group is their idea that everyone should run from their feelings. Of course they wouldn't put it that way, but let's look closely. 1. "If you are feeling bad get someone to love you." . 2. "Anger is always wrong." . This idea of running from your feelings is pervasive in this group though they deny it . I believe this is a pri
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This requires a lot of clarity. A lot. You don't find love. Love is something you do regardless of what other people are doing. That's how you have it. Also, it is helpful to notice we create and are responsible for our own feelings. No one outside of us makes us feel a certain way . We have to stop trying to suck on others people's energy and be radiant love ourselves.
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Why is this dependence on others to love you wrong? This idea of getting others to love you, why is it wrong? Because the whole idea with love is that it is about you being loving. It doesn't matter what other people do, you be loving. If it was about getting other people to love you, as is taught here... well that has always been the whole problem. We all know how to get other people
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Unconditional love means being loved by someone who gets nothing in return and expects nothing in return. If they get something in return it is simply a business trade, so there is no thought that Greg Baer is offering people "unconditional love" whether in interventions, retreats or seminars all of which he gets lots of money in return for. While it's true that practically anyo
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My car mechanic only charges for his time too. But he doesn't lie about it and tell me he is doing it "unconditionally", asking nothing in return.
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Regarding the reallove cult, former medical doctor Greg Baer is currently offering weekend “interventions” for seven thousand dollars, something like that. The selling point is that he is giving “unconditional love,” something many people have never experienced before in their lives. It is unconditional love because he asks nothing in return and loves you no matter what. What about the $7k? He sa
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Reallove.com is based on a fundamentally wrong premise. The premise is that you are “empty of real love and need to go out to other people and get filled up with real love.” This is DEPENDENCY. When you believe this wrong assumption and follow this program it creates a life of constant seeking. Seeking to “get filled up with real love” from Greg or others. Seeking itself is what we do out of f
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The basic principle of Greg Baer's “real love” group is that all of our lives we have had to pay for love. We have never experienced unconditional love. Unconditional love given freely with nothing expected in return... that is what is healing. It's a great idea. Greg said he went bankrupt trying to give people unconditional love and so a number of years ago he started charging
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