I have to admit that tracking this and getting letters, etc from other investors did not get to the top of my priority list, despite the potential for grabbing them in Thailand. I do have receipts from banks that I deposited money in, as do the people that collected a bunch of money to invest for a group of us. I just find it amazing that we have not found a way to stop these guys. Any sugge
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I just noticed that there have been over 20,000 views of this topic! Who and where are all these people? Have you all been scammed by these guys? If you have been scammed, please come out and speak. If we can get even 1/4 of these people together we must be able to take it to some authority.
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Does everyone have receipts from the banks they deposited to? Obviously they wont be in their names, but there might be a way to track them back to them. Just an idea
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Undone You have his laptop!? Can you access his files? Is there anything we can use on there? You are the closest we have gotten to him/them in a long time. there must be records somewhere or they wouldnt be able to keep track of all the people they have swindled.
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Wow, you have been in contact with them recently? What are they claiming? did you bring up all of this stuff to them? Do you know where they are? Seems like this would be a good time to pursue them. And yes, I agree with Robert60, we should be making more internet chatter about this. Any ideas on how to do this folks? Hoax / scam websites?
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Ok, I just spent a little time online. Frustratingly, there do not seem to be any sites to report this type of scam, only for internet scams. I did however submit inquiries with several sites: , investigative reporters and editors, and an investigative reporter for NBC. Hopefully we will hear something from one of these. What do we think about starting a public yahoo group, that will at least
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Greetings, I have not logged in for several months and am interested to see that someone, at least a couple of someone's actually still have contact with him, and one person with passport info? I only have receipts for deposits, but I am up for creating a "task force" to bring an end to this horrific ongoing crime. I have let go of the money, but am disturbed and dumbfounded th
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Hello- Havent checked in on this in a while. Seems he is still out there running this scam. I knew he was international, but had no idea he was running the scam around the world, but of course he would be. I did not invest a lot of money but know several people who did, and some who invested small amounts that they really didnt have, in good faith. He definitely preyed on people who had go
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TwiceShy- I am interested and shocked to hear that this scam is still running. this inspires me to do some research with some of the investors I know and see if they want to pursue this further. I can see if anyone is still in contact with Mark or Karl, although I doubt it. It does seem amazing that with so many people involved, and the reputed "high profile" Karl was supposed to hav
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I am grateful to find these posts. Given the number of people involved, I had expected to find more info on this elsewhere on the net. I too am one of the "victims" or suckers, whichever you choose, of this scam. although I would dearly love to have the money back, I am more interested at this point in exposing these two men and their dispicable deed. As mentioned above, they took
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