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12 years ago
indiaspark
Some of us in India are sick of smokescreen of charity by these so called gurus who are nothing but charlatans. So here is an article addressing it. Ever since the announcement of godman Sai Baba’s death in Puttaparthi on Sunday, the 24th of April, the most commonly seen defense of the life and actions of India’s most famous conman, on blogs and social media entries discussing his death, i
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12 years ago
indiaspark
Here is a link of an article written by an apologetic with the usual straw man arguments. It is not uncommon now that for many Gurus, Rishis or Seers who have emerged from India, there has always been an unprecedented number of vicious attacks launched on them. These have come in the guise of slander, misquotes, false allegations and myriad smear campaigns. Moreover it is interesting to
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13 years ago
indiaspark
Sorry to digress, but it appears the label hindu or meme called Hindusim is not fully understood here. I am Indian and live in India so please let me explain. There is also nothing benign about 'hinduism' its beliefs and its rituals practices. Hinduism is a meaningless religious label. It is NOT an ancient philosophy that originated in India. In fact, the word Hindu is not eve
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteBrynhild TudorHi gang, While researching how to destroy my own cult beliefs, I came across this article and thought you might want to watch out for this guy. Maybe there's another thread about him somewhere, but just in case, I thought I'd post this. This man passed away in 2009
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13 years ago
indiaspark
A critical article on this dubious group.
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13 years ago
indiaspark
They claim that they are a group of physicists and mathematicians ! But it sure looks like new age 'woo woo' to me
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuotereseI just signed up to hopefully clarify the definition of *cult* for the participants of these forums, like the ongoing debate between Guru Patrol and others is trying to achieve. Sceptics here need seriously to consider if all religion and spirituality is a cult or not. If authentic spiritual teachers exist, the criteria need clarification in order to be helpful. If every whiner g
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13 years ago
indiaspark
Thank goodness for forums like these which promote reason and rational thought. I live in India and despair at all the irrational stuff that is passed off here is as some sacred knowledge. It is nothing but primitive abstract ideas which are unscientific. The meme called "Hinduism" is not some benign religion. Its as harmful as any other blind faith. People like guru g are doing just
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteGuru Patrola) not my Guru b) are you for real? Are you sure she is not your guru? Its obvious from your posts that you are an interested party and an apologist for her !
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13 years ago
indiaspark
Guru Patrol You and your guru are really out of depth in a forum like this.
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteStoicThe burden of proof, as I said to indiaspark, is on you frankly. Actually, the burden of proof is on Guru SwamiG who has made numerous assertions regarding what she teaches with no evidence at all to back the validity of those assertions. She is demanding that her followers swallow her assertions on faith, not evidence and promotes a system of bhakti yoga--devotion to the guru--tha
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteGuru PatrolAm not a student, but do feel that the burden of proof is on you, not them, to provide sensible evidence against. There is no argument in calling the videos inane. To who? To you? In what way? In what way are they "harmful" to unsuspecting people. and who are these people? In what way does a video take away their ability to think for themselves? This site should not be a
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuotecorboyFor more reading on confirmation bias go here: For "null hypothesis" go here: 'Science, Pseudoscience and Irrationalism" by Steve Dutch Am adding a URL for an article some might find interesting Thank you for those links Corboy. Much appreciated.
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13 years ago
indiaspark
Stoic Thanks for taking the time to write that excellent post. Very well said. I live in India and are among those Indians distressed by the irrational nonsense that is practiced with blind faith. There is a feeling in the western world that eastern religions are benign. I can assure you they are not. As a born 'hindu' I am ashamed of the caste system that prevails under the hindu
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoterrmoderatorTo whom it may concern: Neo-eastern cults often use "meditation" or what can be seen as trance induction/hypnosis, to render participants more suggestible. In such an altered dissociative state they become malleable and can then be relatively easily persuaded to feel and believe almost anything. In trance an individual's perception of reality can be greatly al
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuotesarojiniDear RRModerator and to whom it may concern, IndiaSpark: your entire premise is based on your own opinions and held beliefs. You ask for proof that Kundalini is valid, that what Guru speaks of is true (Realization / Enlightenment) or that the various activities (Shaktipat, Kryias, Mudras, etc) in the videos are real. Yet, you have no proof that they are not. If you can provide
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteJohn A. Lobur Why are you so bent on this particular teacher? Why not? I think all cults like yours needs to be investigated. This forum has been set up exactly for this purpose.
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteJohn A. LoburDear Sandman, The miracles at Medjugorjie can't be rationally explained either. . . does that make them invalid? John. Sex, lies and apparitions - Medjugorjie
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteJohn A. LoburQuoteIndiasparkohn you are clearly part of this weird group and will defend your guru at all costs. There is no scientific evidence for the existence of God, and yet many intelligent people still believe. Just because there is no objective scientific evidence does not mean that there is no evidence and that therefore it is nonsense. You posted several videos. . . you have
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteJohn A. LoburIndiaspark, flinging words around like "nonsense" and the like in a hostile manner does nothing to bolster your argument. That is your opinion and there is nothing objective about it. QuoteindiasparkIt seems you have obviously not even looked at information that is on forums like Rick Ross until your "guru" name came up here. How can something both seem
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13 years ago
indiaspark
Ganga Karmokar aka Swami G Creepy videos Video of SG shakipat though breath.....whatever that means !! Bizarre ! These people are deluded......
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteJohn A. LoburHello, My name is John A. Lobur and I am a (recently) tenured professor of Classics (Greek and Latin Language and History) at the University of Mississippi (Oxford). I hold a PhD. in Classical Studies from the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor and I have recently published a book on the interaction of culture, ideas and power in the transformation of the Roman government fr
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteSwamiG You say that i have to PROVE everything to you as far as Kundalini is real etc. Well i say to you prove that it is not.. i say to others you think this is fake --- you think that it's all made up well it's easy to sit back and crow but have you actually walked the walk to find out ? The answer to this is no... One could say i am a rationalist because what is b
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoteSidha7001To who it may concern: The personal Pujari for the Shankiacharia of Conci Purim conducted the Sanyas ceremony according to all due official rights for Guru SwamiG. When traveling to Conci Purim, Swami G then met the head of the Pujari at Conci Purum whose family was in charge of the temple rights there. Guru Swami G was in Full Sanyas wear. Even though it was stated no f
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13 years ago
indiaspark
On the topic of suggestions here is a rational take on the martial arts myth of 'no touch' knock down. Watch till the end :)
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13 years ago
indiaspark
QuoterrmoderatorMany neo-eastern groups rely upon some form of hypnosis or trance induction to make individuals highly suggestible. In this altered state almost anything can be suggested to the subject and then accepted as reality. In this way feelings can be easily manipulated. See Also see Thanks for those links.
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13 years ago
indiaspark
Take a look at this video to view the insanity that these people are into. Larry is now Rohan !
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13 years ago
indiaspark
@Jene - 'kundalini' is just an exotic sounding word for various subjective experiences and state of mind. There is nothing divine as you people claim dressed in saffron and eastern attire. The harm you are doing is that you are talking nonsense and confusing the mentally ill. Most people who come to groups like yours have mental problems for which they need a qualified psychiatrist. And
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13 years ago
indiaspark
@ Holly Hom - your account is another anecdote with false analogies. You are part of the running of her group. Your account has no credibility although you do try by throwing in discussions of physics etc like most charlatans do. You said - In an instant, I realized that I wasn’t “living life”, but that I was “being lived by life” - This is nothing but word play. You talk of subjective experienc
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13 years ago
indiaspark
SwamiG you have still not answered the question as to what is your given birth name? Why do you and your people use pompous titles like Swami and Sage? Your long winded confounding post here is again full of fallacies and anecdotes. Nirmukta is a community of freethinkers in India. Some of us do a lot work at the grass root level educating people against superstition to free their minds. W
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