Welcome back Eigenherr and Just Googling! We have missed you! More sage advice- Jon Shore Psychotherapist, Spiritual Psychology at Lifesanswers.org (1974–present) What is one major way to spot a fraudulent spiritual teacher? There are a few ways to spot a fraudulent spiritual teacher. Examine the real life of the teacher. Do they live what they teach? Does it really work for them
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yup - you got that right, Run_Forest_Run- "Then you have the offspring like Butler and all the other ISKCON and Gaudiya Math clowns. One after another there is reports of some wrong-doing or seedy involvement in money or drugs or other abuses. All for "KRISHNA!!!!!". The big neutralizer that justifies it all. All these guys believe that the highest state of existence they can
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Truth Wins- you nailed it- excellent capture of what is truly behind this slave/slavemaster relationship that so many fell hostage to. A sort of Vedic Stockholm Syndrome: "Love, the most costly emotion on earth. And if you can’t get it from god and humans, you can always get a dog. Is Bhakti yoga truly worth crawling like a dog in front of drug dealing and money laundering brahmans. O
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Dear Truth Wins- I completely agree with your last post! Kudos for trying to escape that miserable group that did nothing but harm families. And much respect for having the wisdom and the guts to follow your heart! "Why can’t we act like evolved beings without thinking is that going to be pleasing to god or guru? Or act in the right way so that the police does not arrest you. Fearless
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Thank you , Run_Forest_Run, You are correct ! "The cult mind is ready to sacrifice the minds of their kids on the altar of some blue playboy god and fill their kids brains with utter mind waste in the naive hope that everyone will go to cow-heaven and become a 12 year old manjari girl helping god and his made-up girlfriend get off for eternity. Jai ho! Fucking naive assholes. Keep
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Truth Wins:"They have enough scriptures to last them 20 lifetimes. It is only by going very deep, that one realizes that there is no absolute truth. But many truths mixed with lies. Each soul is where they are supposed to be. They are just being moved on the chess board. I thought I wanted to make it my mission to battle the corruption and lies of SoI. But it is a waste of time and energ
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More evidence- this fake guru will now be reported to the proper authorities. This is unconscionable criminal behavior. We urge anyone who has been harmed by this man or who has had any family member harmed to contact their local authorities. Part 1- Part 2- Part 3- Part 4- Part 5-
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For - Run Forest Run- Truth Wins & Frozen Nick BRAVO, Gentlemen !!! And this: "and this is my fear and what I suspect, they are literally being dictated to by their guru who believes that the same rules of life apply now as they did in 1200 BC. Not everything can be fixed with an aloha, namaste or a haribol. Sometimes stupid, is as stupid does." RFR And ALL these cu
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Truth Wins- Are you saying - you actually have a copy of that 300 page "Rules and Regulations" binder? If you do, then Karma is a pretty bi%ch.
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This !! Quote: "SOI will implode Posted by: Dudley () Date: June 27, 2021 08:12AM A friend is telling me that most members of SOI believe Tulsi Gabbard is a pure devotee. Some believe Nitchy Hanson is also a pure devotee. Its only logical that butler must have said something, he has decided to give pure devoteeship to these people for services rendered. I believe that this is another
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And this is well: Integrity -Truth - Compassion. Things that seem to be in short supply in many realms of the earthy "spiritual" world. Expose the frauds- all of them.
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Another possible media outlet to help make people aware .
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Bingo- thank you, Frozen Nick- Quote: "Just shows how insincere ISCKON and Butler are. Another ridicuility: C. Butler gave himself at least two very important and great Hindu titles "Jagad" and "Paramahamsa". Even real masters through history would have at least one of those titles but seldomly or actually never two or more. It reveals the megalomaniac attitude of h
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Might this help? TESTIMONIAL OF MILES WITT Part -1- TESTIMONIAL OF MILES WITT Part-2-...
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Yes. Arrest warrants sound ideal. Sit back and watch, good people. It is what a criminal organization deserves. Yes, we all pulled from our and our loved ones personal experiences in this cult. It is the truth. And as Vera states, others as well have posted their own experiences, traumas, and grievances. It is the truth. Butler is going to be hard pressed to defend his lies in the f
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Well... that totally rules Butler out. Quote: "Krsnadasa Kaviraja lists the twenty-six good qualities of a Vaisnava: (1) He is very kind to everyone. (2) He does not make anyone his enemy. (3) He is truthful. (4) He is equal to everyone. (5) No one can find any fault in him. (6) He is magnanimous. (7) He is mild. (8) He is always clean. (9) He is without possessions. (10) He w
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Amen, Brother Ian... Quote:" The more you vacillate in you position and feelings with this cult the longer you keep your own self in a hellish mindset. Toss your time with these clowns in the dustbin of time and never look back. I can assure you every ounce of it was nonsense. You thrived in comradary and idealism. You can again find this elsewhere if it's something you crave. No
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Quote:"It is not so much a spiritual community. At times it feels more like Hollywood. Those kind of connections and who is who is more a show business mentality." 'Truth Wins'- It has always been that way: $$ + power. It was never a spiritual movement. The more $$ you could give to Butler, the better you were treated. The family of the poor guy who was in a terrible
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Cancer. The Great Equalizer. CultKid85- care to share who has succumbed amongst the elders? Gurudev rambling. Is this another way of saying, dementia may be knocking on his door? CultKid, thanks for the updates.
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The Cult of Butler- the gift that keeps on giving. Much like, well you know... “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.” And the Evil One has his minions to carry out his twisted and hateful agenda. Again. Latest orders from the great Grand Poobahfraud himself, given to his loyal political puppet Tulsi: https://www.civilbeat.org/2020/12/lee
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Ian- please check your PM's V
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Ian, personality cult with a criminal bent to it. Absolutely, the truth will come out. ...and with it, justice for Sri Shim. Mathew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing (or dhotis), but inwardly, they are ravenous wolves.
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Ever the scam artist- Butler makes his moves - again. Tulsi Gabbard surfaces with new orders from Don Chris Butler. Quote:"It indicates that she plans to be politically active going forward,” he said. “If she just wanted to give away the remaining money in her campaign account she could have done that without converting it into a nonconnected committee.” This kind of move is common
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THE DANGERS OF DERANGED DEVOTION or, You can only be as good as your Teacher. From somewhere on the 'net:
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awwww...they forgot po' little Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa.
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Greetings Hanson and welcome to the Forum. Thank you for your testimony. Something you said stood out- its an interesting thought- Covid 19 as a Cult Cure. Who would have thought! I know that in Australia, the CV 19 issue is pretty draconian in measure. I really do hope that if more of your friends are able to escape this very destructive cult, that they find their way here. Good on
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Cultkid85- thank you for your reply. This caught my eye: "It is a life lived in a constant state of fear with the new element being Mr. Butler’s advanced age. It is being weaponised to inspire more devotion. An example would be “Srila Prabhupada isn’t going to be around much longer, then he will be gone and with him his association.” Laughable- his advanced age? Do those devbots n
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Hello Cultkid85 and welcome. Yes, this is a good place to decompress and process everything you have gone thru. One of the few things I remember from the cult, the one that still causes some emotional triggers to go off, are all the kids who have suffered and lost loved ones, whether by suicide or by resorting to drugs to dull the pain of where they were at, or who their family was, who suffer
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From somewhere on the 'net: It is hoped that people, especially in Hawaii, will start to see the truth behind the facade of this very secretive and abusive cult.
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Another victim of Cult of Butler. This was sent to me recently and the article is in Polish, but there was an English translation made, via Google translate. The image in the article is not that of the poor hapless victim. This occurred in 1999 in Poland and the article was written last year(2019). Chanting Beads Dariusz Nov 4, 2019 0 comments "Certificate of Cult residence&qu
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