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6 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Lots of memories stirred up this evening as I've glanced over the 65 pages of this thread. Glad to see all this information and testimony regarding Kirkby Christian Fellowship is still here and prominent on Google. Hope everyone is well and finding the peace and healing they all came here to find.
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
This little reunion is very touching!
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Hi, 'rhymeswithdross'! I'm gay and a very liberal Anglican, so no judgment from me - and I'll happily defend you if anyone takes issue with your beliefs. What we all have in common here is not our religion, but our humanity. We've all experienced abuse, seen abuse, and want to spare other people from abuse, and that's the bottom line.
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Hi, all, hope you are keeping well. Thought I would stop by to share a message that was left on my blog this morning. QuoteYou people are so PATHETIC. I went to that church all my life, and left a few years ago, and my family are still involved, and i've never experienced any of this spiritual/emotional/sexual abuse that you talk about so often. You haven't even spoke to these pe
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Sorry, this should have been posted as a reply to the KCF topic. When I clicked to reply, it took me to the login page, and then must have taken me to create a new topic. Mods, please feel free to remove this, and I will post it under the existing KCF thread.
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Hi, all, hope you are keeping well. Thought I would stop by to share a message that was left on my blog this morning. QuoteYou people are so PATHETIC. I went to that church all my life, and left a few years ago, and my family are still involved, and i've never experienced any of this spiritual/emotional/sexual abuse that you talk about so often. You haven't even spoke to these pe
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Previous url had a typo (included the full stop in the address). www.kirkbyfellowship.blogspot.com
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Thanks, onlyme. I kept meaning to post about that. The website can be found at www.kirkbyfellowship.blogspot.com. The old URL was just a redirect to that.
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Well done for your continued hard work on this, David. For what it's worth, here is my view on a mediation, which I shared privately with David, but will now share with you all. I'll quote directly from what I told David: QuoteAs regards outcome, I have always been quite honest whenever I've been asked - my intention has never been to "dialogue" with KCF or achieve &q
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
It is not enough to say that "good happened as well". I don't doubt it has, but it has no bearing on the need to be vocal in exposing KCF's abuse, which is what this thread is all about. In every abusive situation, whether it's sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse or spiritual abuse, there's always good you can find as well. But if, say, a father has sexu
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
If one of the servers was David's, however, does that not make it likely that the attack was coming from someone or something else in his area, ie Kirkby?
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Mike, I am truly glad you weren't hurt by your experience at KCF. However, you have been fortunate. Others have not been so lucky. When people are publicly shamed, humiliated, lied to, turned against family and friends, manipulated, and mentally and emotionally abused, there is no one to blame but the abuser. You will not get very far blaming the victims here, Mike. Every one of us her
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Let me clarify as regards KCF "redirecting" my website. When I had the first website warning against Kirkby Christian Fellowship, the home page included a frame through which the official Kirkby Fellowship website could be viewed. One day I visited MY website, and the entire page refreshed and redirected to the official KCF website. No one hacked my website. It was a cunning tr
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
One more thing: QuoteAJGIt seems to me no-one has the guts to tell this woman to move one - all she's looking for is someone to validate her feelings. And that's not what I joined the forum for. Moving on is a process. Having your feelings validated is an important part of that process. Most people here spent years in a place where their thoughts and feelings were suppressed, wher
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
AJG, you have no idea how this forum has emboldened otherwise very fearful people, such as BBC, to face up to a lot of issues this last couple of months. Earlier on, when someone called you a troll, I thought, Hang on, I talked to this guy over email, and I don't think he's a troll. Someone made a lot of assumptions about why you were here. Now you appear to have done the same yourse
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
This ridiculous prodigal thing reminds me of a friend of mine. She had a Muslim boyfriend, so her church "friends" gave her an ultimatum: him or us. Obviously, she didn't want to give up her partner, so her church friends totally dumped her. Just refused to be friends with her any more. She later split up with her boyfriend, and her friends welcomed her back. And I thought, Why
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
I see Google have removed my site from their search engine. I have resubmitted the URL to Google, and suspect the Fellowship may be behind this. We certainly have them on the run now. Thanks, David, for tipping me off. It still showed up when I first checked, but on double-checking this morning, it is no longer there in the results. One thing some of you may wish to do that could be very he
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
AJG, the problem is not "heresy". It is basic abuse and manipulation. Your approach is akin to those who ask abused wives, "Why don't you just leave?". Rick was spot on.
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
AJG, you are right about that kind of divination predating medieval times, although it was still present in those times (just look at the way witches were tried). And yes, that goes right back into ancient times, even into the Bible itself, and it would be very easy to claim a biblical basis, eg from Acts. I don't doubt that is exactly the sort of scripture KCF would point to for justificati
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
I guess the "lesbian" accusation only has currency (if true) not because there's anything wrong with being lesbian, but because of the hypocrisy. But I know nothing about that or where that rumour came from, so I'll keep quiet about that! AJG, I have to pick you up on one thing you said: "no one is forced to attend". One quality of cults and abusive religious grou
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
At the very least, justice would be for Cheryl and the gang to be stopped in their tracks. There is no way to undo the damage done so far, but we can do our best to prevent it happening to others.
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Hi folks, great to see the discussion is still moving on, and we're seeing faces old and new around here. Just wanted to remind folk (as sensitively as possible, 'cause the last thing I want to do is trample on anyone's feelings) that not everyone here is a born-again Christian. As for myself, I am a very liberal Christian; others may not be Christian or religious at all. It
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
The Charity Commission lists Kirkby Christian Fellowship as Fellowship for Christian Services here.
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
QuoteI know I said I won't be back, but I just wanted to post some info relevant to what is being discussed (probably already known to you peeps like!) Hi, onlyme, glad to see you back. Hope you're doing okay. As with any dangerous teaching, there are always a few nuggets of scriptures they can hang their teachings on. But the Bible texts are always just a pretext - a convenient ex
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
Try this link instead. (Typo in the above post!)
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
It seems the Forums are now back online, even if there are still big problems with the database! I've managed to save the entire discussion so far in text format, so the wealth of information and testimony here will not be lost if anything else happens. An excellent idea, John W. If I may be quite bold, I'll get the ball rolling and appeal for statements that can be collected into
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
(RR/Mod, please remove my previous post, as I got the link wrong!) I have now posted the information about knitted relationships at the website, here and here. To summarise, the documents I have (which you can read for yourself at the website) warn of several things: * Nervous breakdown * Total loss of privacy, as far as "thoughts" and "sin" go * Threat to other rel
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
I have now posted the information about knitted relationships at the website, here and [=http]. To summarise, the documents I have (which you can read for yourself at the website) warn of several things: * Nervous breakdown * Total loss of privacy, as far as "thoughts" and "sin" go * Threat to other relationships in your life * Intense, "in your face" nature
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
QuoteI would to know from where in the scriptures Cheryl can justify the forming of knitted relationships .If anyone knows I would be interested to see any papers on the subject. Hi, Rev. Welcome to the discussion. I have some literature from the Fellowship on this subject of "knitted relationships", which I will post to my website when I get the chance.
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15 years ago
Liverpool Writer
QuoteIts interesting that the KCF website has deleted all the latest news section... Hi, Yeti! I don't think that section has ever had content. I guess "Cult-watching website exposes abuse at Kirkby Fellowship" wouldn't make a good headline from their point of view, anyway. ;)
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