Thank you Matilda, in my recent post I did not use the word "cult" lightly, and in my mind I went through the facts which you so clearly and comprehensively listed for us again. For this reason--Joe being duped into a cult--we are not holding his deplorable actions against him. What can be more deplorable than to sue, seek revenge, and try to destroy your own family for something that
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Hello to all Friends on this site... I have been busy with uplifting pursuits and not made time to involve myself with anything MCKay. However, I have just found out that the Johnson family is still entangled in the crazy lawsuit and that Mckay/Reinhard are still holding on like leeches in the hope of making a financial killing. Shame on both of you... Sheila, please have your attorney contact
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Is this show on one of the regular TV chanels? Sounds most creepy.
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I am very happy for Vicki, whom I met personally in Los Angeles and liked very much. She is a lovely woman with two beautiful, smart daughters. I thought about the three of them often and could not fathom why they would spent their time working (slaving) for Dave. Vicki had also just donated a kidney when I met her. Maybe we'll hear from her on this forum? That would be delightful. Vik
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barbiedoll, thank you so much for your post today. You are very brave and as you say, you may prevent someone else from joining. Yes, the JCs have some good messages--like for example about waste--but nothing new and special that caring people all over the world are not and have not implemented for many years. Dave always seems behind the times and his thinking mired in self-adoration, to
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Jeremy, the youtube video you posted is from Al Franken's book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them," which I read, loved, and mentioned to you guys several months ago.
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Dave, sorry, I do not post as Muppet (never have) and I am out of town at the moment, but I am well aware of Corinthians 13. The first time I came across it was in a London library when I was 21. I am very old now.... It stunned me and I copied the words by hand so that I could carry them around. Please update me on your cats and let me know if you were successful in neutering and spayed the
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Matilda, thank you. I wholeheartedly support the parents in trying to get justice for their son Jeremiah. There is also a petition going in Germany which I support in German. I shall pass this along to the Jewish community in New York and elsewhere.
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Dave wrote this: "With hindsight, we feel that if Ash had been more specific about appointing Alf as his "next of kin", this may have all been avoided. George saw Kate as his next of kin, and he started thinking (when the situation was becoming more up close and personal for him) that it would cover his backside if he personaly spoke to Kate and put her at ease about what he would
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Malcolm, I believe Dave's mother tried and will always be there for him. And I am not saying mothers are always right in their "dogmatic" ways. I believe in the Jewish saying, "Who descents from you teaches you." And that our sons and daughters have a strong longing for new light to bring to the world. They often do and we, as parents, need to listen. Unfortunate
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Dave wrote: "Old habits die slowly, and so Kate is still inclined to force herself onto Ash." Let me tell you Dave....a mother's "old habits" --love for her child--never die. There's nothing you can do about it. Nothing. Mothers, like Kate, will be there to reclaim their sons and daughters from the gates of hell if need be. They'll be waiting.
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Kirstie, if you are reading this...you made the right choice. Don't give up on trusting the right kind of people and always follow your instinct, like you did now by not involving yourself with a group that would have brought you and the people you love and who love you nothing but heartache in the end. I have been very impressed with your posts and if you want to get in touch, don'
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I agree, Blackhat, the evolution discussion on the JC thread is very interesting. Dave, as to Rajah and Rani (lovely names by the way) it would be good if you spay and neuter. It prevents a lot of suffering. It really touches me that you have taken interest in the cats. Do you remember in Saint Exupery's "The Little Prince?" The Little Prince tamed the fox and the fox said to
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Credit where Credit is due! Just wanted to state how impressed I am with Joe's maturity expressed in his writings. (For such a young man this is quite remarkable.) Someone must have had a good influence on him during his upbringing. Also Dave, showing kindness towards that stray kitty and his mate is very nice. Are you able to make arrangements for when you and Cherry travel? Cats are l
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Tofferer, don't listen to the Cult Awareness Network (CAN). It has been corrupted by a cult. Not Dave, but a very powerful organization.
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Malcolm, there seems to be something I am not understanding here. Please PM and explain. Dave wrote on his cat thread.... "Now apparently Liesel is a vegetarian, so it's a little more understandable with her, but the others, who would not bat an eyelash at eating a chicken are really hypocritical trying to take the high moral ground on my even contemplating killing a chicken and
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Zeuszor, I am sorry, but I find your rants about a man called Tofferer quite unnessesary, annoying, even offensive. His private business does not belong here, and maybe you no longer belong here. This thread is about McKay and the trouble he causes to families and members past and present. It's a thread of support for each other.
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Apostate, thank you very much. That's an important and enlightning post. I had no idea about any of this. You are truly an "insider," and what an inspiration how you and your family have prevailed and moved on with your lives in a healthy way.
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Two of Dave's members "had to lie!" Who told them to lie? Who is behind all those JC donations? Does anyone know how Ezra is feeling? There is a very disturbing today's post by Al on the JC site about drinking stuff.
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Yes, Zeuszor, the kind of constant "excitement" Dave is talking about has a very detrimental effect on the body and soul. Getting back to kidney donations, here is a piece someome on the LDF posted in reply to "our" Dave reasoning that lies are good. I am putting this up for discussion. I tend to agree with the writer. "Dave, you wrote: "We have seen legis
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Yes, Malcolm, that's a direct quote.
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Dave's quote-of-the-day.... "Cherry often comments on what an exciting and full life we have lived. She told me the other day (Just got to show off this one!) that what attracted her to me in her high school days is that I wasn't boring! Yeah, I guess THAT'S true! Ha!" Dave, you are not boring and we are sure your life has been very full. However, may I suggest that
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Malcolm, no, sorry, I didn't keep a copy of the few, short posts I made on LDO. They basically stated people should be aware that McKay leads a cult and hungers publicity for himself. I picked the name "liveandletlive" for myself, but within minutes Dave knew who I was, and he went to town with one of his expansive (really long) exposition about my slave-driving and lying. (I worke
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Ezra, I hope you are feeling better.
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Apostate, Zeuszor, Malcolm, Private Eye, thanks...all great posts. I looked at the Living Donors Online site yesterday and was so overcome with Dave's long distance whining that I was moved to post. Of course Ezra should get the best after-care possible and the hospital should have held on to him for as long as they could. Back in that rusty, leaky van he is not going to get the care
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I wonder if Kimono found Dave's chicken comments humorous or if she told him how nasty and cruel they are and how symbolic. He (Dave) tries to pervert every good deed. Kim, follow your kind and generous heart and not your sick leader. I am also seeing further symbolism...Dave's aim in snatching young men and women--our sons, daughters and friends--who may find themselves vulner
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Observation on a recent Dave's "cat" thread post.... concerning a defenseless chicken.... he comments to Kim...."right, befriend the chicken while it's young, makes it easier to catch and eat later.... Do you guys see or is it just me?
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Dave states, "We have a whole family of stray cats that live in the alley behind our flat, and we have been working on one of them, whom we call Rajah, just to trust humans enough to come and get some food from us. It's been quite a challenge!" Dave, I knew there had to be something I would like about you. You may want to help get those cats spayed as not to produce more strays
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Enjoy, guys, and make sure your sound is up when you go to watch this.
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Cultmalleus, thanks. I am always struck by how backward and hypocritical Dave's thinking is. There was recently a discussion about factory farming and our treatment of animals. The woman Dave called so many times by despicable names has been a vegetarian for many years--amongst many other causes--and has been outspoken that humans cannot treat any living being callously. We have a higher
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