Quotedbvanhorn On the third point, This seems highly distorted to me. HAI teaches you to see nudity as just that. To decouple nudity from sex, and to see it as the dropping of pretense and barriers. Quotekarenb But nudity does make one more vulnerable, and not just metaphorically. If you are with strangers or with anyone not your doctor/family/lovers naked, especially if you are female,
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Not only is information censored/blocked by the Pagan Association, they also spread deliberate lies to discredit their opponents. On internet forums the second in command of the Pagan Association has been spreading that the two women who pressed charges against Martin first met in a psychiatric ward. We met when we were at college together at the age of 17. We have never been in hospital t
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QuotenutrinoThere's a degree of criticism of TR within the NLP community. That's true. He has a reputation as "a bully", trying to bully people into change. Love Kath
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QuoteCipherThe following was copied from their newsletter posted on their website: "What the “Miracle of Love” Workshop Offers Could this be the 'Miracle of Love' discussed here:- Or is the same name just a coincidence? Love Kath
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Quotemorco2006 Anyway, all is well because I spent a long time today reading the PA forum in it's entirety, and you know what? I think you're on to something. I take back any doubts I may have had about K's integrity and apologise. How strange that you have not replied. It almost makes me think you only wrote that in the hope that this thread about the Pagan Association would
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QuotezaflonI'd be interested to know in what context this was being, 'taught' in a classroom situation. This is what it says in the link to the petition:- Over the past three years, the International School of Monterey, California, a public charter school, has had two "doctors of medical qigong" from the International Institute of Medical Qigong (www.medicalqigong.or
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Quotemorco2006 The bit about "Ones who attempt to post peoples real names on threads" went over my head I'm afraid. zaflon was refering to the fact that you posted someone's real name earlier in the thread, which was then removed by the moderator. Quotemorco2006Anyway, all is well because I spent a long time today reading the PA forum in it's entirety, and you kn
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Quotemorco2006 ..... Airing your dirty laundry in public is never very nice, some things are best dealt with in private. It is not my dirty laundry, as I have done nothing, stuff was DONE TO me. Love Kath
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Another gathering in Birmingham, billed as a 'perfect day out for the whole family,' sparked condemnation from the Church of England, when the pagan musical group scheduled to perform insisted on a 'quiet area for fornication' during the celebration. A spokesman for the Custard Factory, where the festival was held, told the local paper, The Birmingham, that the group In
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QuoteGREYSEALOnce installed the PC owner has now become the Licensed User. They are also provided with very clear instructions on how to change the paremeters within the software to allow, restrict or deny total access to their PC by and external party. If they fail to change the access paremetres, then they are giving legal permission for any of the other Millions of people with similar sofwa
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QuoteGREYSEALI still have access to the MOL PC. Believe me.... I'm not messing anyone about. Toni has taken copies of the files that were posted by me. When I first accessed the MOL PC, I thought my presence had been noticed and so their no point in keeping this info to my self. However. if I still have access to this PC why blow the cover just at this moment. Regards Mich
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It's a shame greyseal deleted them, cos they were really interesting:) Please put them up again, they're fascinating:) Love Kath
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Quotemorco2006to my knowledge I've never met the organisers of the PA in person nor have I communicated with them in any way. If you've never met them and never been to any of the events or even spoken to them, then you don't know if they are a destructive group or not, or anything about them. Their forum only gives the heavily censored 'edited for television' versio
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We were told fruit was BRAIN FOOD and it helped with learning faster. However, we weren't told fruit is also cleansing and triggers a detox, which generally tires and weakens the body and mind (especially when that's all you've had to eat for 4 or more hours), which made Wayne's job easier i.e. participants less likely to rebell. The desired result - CONFORMITY! Also served
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I am not claiming to be a victim, i'm a survivor of this group, as many people are. I don't know if 'cult' is a useful word in this case, i would prefer 'destructive group.' The chairman's sexual exploitation, plus their attempts at censoring all opposition, are the cult-like elements. Lots of 'cult apologists' or members of cults answer threa
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I still do some pagan stuff and most people involved are ok, it's just this particular group that's exceptionally shady. Love Kath
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[...] women have said that they were raped or taken advantage of sexually by Martin Williams [...] not just me [...] I don't know if 'cult' is often a useful word, but 'destructive group' certainly applies in this case, where vulnerable women are preyed upon. I would have no reason to be anti- Pagan Association, were it not for my experience of being raped by its ch
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Has anyone any suggestions about how to expose a cult/destructive group? What media, websites etc to approach or anything like that? Love Kath
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I feel I have to post about my experiences with the Pagan Association, a group based in Birmingham, U.K. It's very hard to get any knowledge about them across as they manage to get things they don't like said about them removed from the net with threats of legal action. However I know Rick's experienced in dealing with such annoyance. This group holds pagan rituals, meetin
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'Indigo' is a euphemism for a child with ADHD, as Doreen Virtue clearly outlines in her book 'The Care and Feeding of Indigo Children.' I don't agree with corporal punishment myself, but that's a different matter:) Love Kath
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QuoteTowest3Thank you for helpful informations. I really hope your wife can heal and recover the best she can under the circumstances. Recovery is different for everyone. I wish her the very best! As she was adviced from cult, she refuses any therapy or medication to be taken. For bipolar it is worst choice regarding that illnes is progressive, not naturaly curable and in time damage on the
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