There is a list of places to view the Southpark Episode here. I think these Southpark guys should be given an award for this. First off, they have enough money to protect themselves under the SATIRE laws of the USA. They should be able get any lawsuit against them dismissed. Notice how the "Tom Cruise" character said he was going to sue them in England, in the episode? This is b
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There is a new website with some info about Tony Robbins Wealth Mastery Seminar. Some of the text from this site will be posted below. Tony Robbins - A first hand, critical view of how the Tony Robbins Company performs and operates http://www.tony-robbins.org/tony_robbins_1.jpg Who is Tony Robbins? The picture on the left is what Tony Robbins looked like when we attended a recent &quo
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I just happened to come across this strangely written petition from the "Legion of Christ" about the Rick Ross page about them! I had never even heard about them until now... What is interesting is as far as I can see, the RR page has ZERO editorial content, and is just a list of articles from the press. How can they protest a list of about 80 news articles? Restore the Authentic
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I find that Wikipedia is pretty good for non-controversial subjects, but for issues that are controversial, the partisans and fanatics just take over.
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Wait, There's More Kevin Trudeau's 'Natural Cures,' Swallowed by Millions Without A Prescription By Libby Copeland Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, October 23, 2005; D01 NEW YORK On this, our lucky day, Kevin Trudeau is introducing us to his personal electromagnetic chaos eliminator. Trudeau, who has sold millions of books by touting the curative p
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Class action sought for 'Dr. Phil' diet suit Unhappy dieters say they lost dollars, not pounds LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- The man famous for dishing out advice on national television now needs the advice of legal counsel. TV psychologist "Dr. Phil" McGraw, whose Texas twang and folksy common sense catapulted him to stardom, is being taken to court over his discont
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The Making Of Dr. Phil I just finished reading the book, “The Making Of Dr. Phil” which is quite a good book. It paints a clear picture of the kind of person Dr. Phil really is, a hypocrite! What is interesting is that this book did not receive much publicity, as there is an alleged campaign against the book by Phil, and most media outlets refused to interview the writers for fear of
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Certain LGAT's will sue you, or threaten to sue you, any chance they can. Look at this web-forum. The "Winds of Changes" folks were sued for going public with allegations. So if you put up a public website using your own name, they MIGHT come after you, trying to get your for libel, etc. Notice how cautious the mainstream media is when even talking about Scientology, they don&
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The Institute that did a coup to get rid of Albert Ellis, also shut down the web forum they were running, due to all of their customers complaining about what they did to Dr. Ellis. They censored and deleted all the critical posts that were there. Straight up censorship, and suppression of dissent. I have just been notified that a new web forum has just been put up, and information about thi
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Dear lord, those DVD's would be full out hypno-persuasion, in surround sound. That is new for him, to offer some DVD's, for a cheaper rate, to draw in new people. Then he will inject endless "upsell" stuff, to get people to move into the higher seminar levels. Now Tony gets to brainwash you in Digital 5.1 surround-sound on your big-screen TV. I wouldn't mind seeing
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Here is another ugly example of some of Tony Robbins personally trained salespeople's tactics. These folks are experts at finding a person's weakness, and then exploiting that weakness into coercing them to sign the contract for up to $30,000+, and beyond, with no refunds...Notice the manipulation, browbeating, guilty, without a conscience. She even tries a hypnotic "embedded co
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More information is coming about now about the travesty at the Albert Ellis Institute. Please consider signing the petition, and also sending emails, and contacting people concerned with this type of issue. There certainly is a "culty" feel to the statements put out by the board who deposed Albert Ellis. Its full of newspeak, deception, twisting the facts, and many other methods we
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Dr. Albert Ellis, who is 92 years old, has been ousted from his own Institute, The Albert Ellis Institute, a non-profit corporation. I have spoken about Dr Ellis many times and the amazing work he has done, who is the founder of Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy (REBT). There is a lot to this story, but the bottom line is that his Institute has been seized by people who in my view are after the
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Some information is coming out about more failure in Robbins personal life. This is relevant in this sense. Here you have a guy like Robbins, who is such a manipulator, that strangers feel like he is their "best friend". Meanwhile his own wife of many years had such contempt for him, she destroyed all of his personal property, I would imagine due to his lies and philandering. N
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I am also highly suspicious of the main claim these types of sites are making. You will notice that a number of them use the term "multi-faith" when describing themselves. Since when do "multi-faiths" play well together in an organization? What happens is they start fighting within themselves, and ultimately one group takes over. My gut feeling is that these so-called Rel
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Here you have an official US Gov't website, which has reprinted the uncritical and biased info from ReligiousTolerance.org written by their main guy B.A. Robinson. I am highly suspicious of the motivations of B.A. Robinson. Also, look at the way they selectively choose alleged "crazed comments" from people (which seem to be very similar, and could have been writ
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I have noticed there are more and more sites of this nature, that give tacit approval, and do not report ANY problems with dangerous groups. For example, here is their Scientology page, where they do not mention the TIME article, or anything else from what I can see, other than Scientology has been persecuted. They also claim here that CAN is run by a "multi-faith group", when I t
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What is up with this site? They give Children Of Love a clean bill! Who is running this website, does anyone know?
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Dr Phil is doing an episode today on The Children Of God cult!! OMG! The Family Cult Dr. Phil goes inside a shocking cult where 9-year-olds were known to have sex with 25-year-olds — on dates set up by their parents. What began as a typical 60s commune became a den of alleged sexual molestation, prostitution and extreme physical abuse … all in the name of God. Inside the Cult Dr.
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and the dreaded Dr Phil had an entire show today spurred by Cruise's anti-psychiatry and anti-psychopharmacology inanity based on his utter ignorance and brainwashed brain. Dr Phil as well was talking out of both sides of his mouth, he even invited Tom Cruise on to talk about the "history of psychiatry", and showed clips from some Scientologist actors saying Cruise was right, an
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Dr. Phil puts on the pout By LIZ SMITH 9/23/2005 It is not only the most difficult thing to know oneself, but the most inconvenient one, too," said Henry Wheeler Shaw. So, what's gotten into America's lovable, rationalist, pop culture shrink? I do mean Dr. Phil, a man who was unknown before Oprah gave him a forum. Now he is behaving like a Diva Deluxe. Last Friday, t
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I don't want to be the one getting sued by these maniacs! :-) But this is why I respect people who are willing to take these people on head-on, that takes a lot of guts. But I am working on something that I will try and put out and do some public talks about at some point. My angle is sorta one-step removed and dealing with the tools and skills of critical thinking, analysis, skepticis
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free ebook about Amway/Quixtar, anyone read it? PS: they ask for an email at the site, but here is Dave Touretzky's mirror of the site, where you can do a straight download. Amway: 'Masters of deception' Multi-billion dollar corporation recruits ordinary folks into the 'system,' uses politicians and pastors to build its empire
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SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM!!! The guys at have been ripping these guys apart for months. (this site takes a while to load on dial-up) They have a great newsletter you can receive for free, and they are going through Lifewave from top to bottom. James Randi has also taken them on. Its a SCAM SCAM SCAM, of the highest order. Why do people promote it? MONEY. Its a big MLM moneymake
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I finally received the book SHAM by Steve Salerno from the library and am reading it. Its quite good! He gives Dr Phil a good kick, as well as Tony Robbins, and all the rest of them. Its not as detailed as I would like, but that book would be too massive and would not sell or be read. Its a good introduction to being critical of these Self-Help SHAM artists. I am trying to find his email, s
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There is an extensive thread about Tony Robbins here, which goes on for about 16 pages so far!
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Tony Robbins may have spent up to $1 million on libel suit: lawyer VANCOUVER (CP) - American motivational speaker Tony Robbins may have spent up to $1 million in legal fees on his libel case against The Vancouver Sun and other media defendants, says a lawyer who was involved in the trial when it began almost six weeks ago. "I'd say the legal fees were $750,000 to $1 million,"
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Ken Wilder and Robbins both endorse this scam called the Qlink just to make some more money. Wilber blatantly lies saying it has been "scientifically" demonstrated to work. Ken Wilber President, The Integral Institute, Boulder, CO, Author of A Brief History of Everything and 16 other books on consciousness and Integral theory and practice. "The QLink is a technology
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Yes, it would make a great Sci-Fi Dystopia movie, everyone in the world is addicted to going to these fucking idiotic LGAT seminars and getting all pumped up and brainwashed by a bunch of salesmen like Canfield, Tony Robbins, and all the rest of them. You could even have the rest of the world hungry, poor, and the environment deteriorating, while all these Yuppies pay to get brainwashed in hotel
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The Robbins trial is now being looked at by the judge. There are more than 50 articles at this site below about this case, which reveal a lot. Also, there is a "comments" section beneath each article, where tons of people have made comments about Robbins. Its quite interesting and educational. (you can read all of the articles here) The original article from The Vancouver Sun.
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