The discussion here is 5 pages long and continuing. As this is the Native American community speaking, here is the URL. Will not quote because too much has been taken from that community already.
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A small question: If that many persons died (3) and required hospital treatment (19 is it?)following a ceremony conducted under supervision of a Native American ritual leader, and that ritual had been conducted on Native American land---- What is the likelihood that the leader/s who presided over the ritual would have been permitted to: *Leave the state *Return to their out of state
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Here is what members of the Native American community are saying. Part of covering this should include escorting concerned readers to the discussion venues owned and used by Native Americans. As so much has already been stolen from Native Americans, I will give only the URLs This next URL is from ShirleyMacLaine.com website discussing this current matter. [74.125.113.132]
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Article from an Desi website. (The reference to 'Shudra' is to one of the lower castes, below the castes of Brahmin, Khstriya and Merchant. Note how one commenter tries to dismiss the critics as other Shudras jealous of an alleged Shudra (Amma) who has made good. The take home lesson to American devotees of Indian gurus/esses is this: research the Indian political networks a
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Swampseer wrote: QuoteFrom time to time, throughout the experience, I cursed my own skeptical tendencies and the comparative hardness of my heart for not letting me be like them. Of course, the part of me that was hardhearted was also hardheaded...and, in retrospect and in the light of the "Spiritual Warrior" story, it saved me and I'm grateful. Swampseer, you are not the only
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Here is an article from a British website for athletes on the importance of hydration. QuoteA new paradigm has been presented regarding the function and role of water in human biochemistry. It is now generally believed that it is the water in our bodies that regulates all functions of the body, including the activity of all the solutes that are dissolved in it. This is contrary to the
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Welcome, swampseer. I dont have any special status here on the message board. But I can offer some orientation advice. A) If anyone you do not know sends you any PMs (private messages) that make you feel shame ridden, guilt ridden, zoned out, or weirded out, pass a copy of that PM on to Rick Ross. The PM area is private, hidden from public view and must be kept clean so that no one can be
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Quote from one of the sources cited above: QuoteTo recover from Muktananda and his path, one may also need to study up on LGATs, and their unromantic but very potent Werner Erhard derived LGAT 'tech'---an area that many former devotees seem never to examine. How can one recover from an LGAT if you dont even know your supposedly authetnic Hindu guru applied LGAT tech and did not s
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This film, by Joan Radha Bridges, is about Muktananda. He appointed two co-successors, Nityanananda and Gurumayi Chidvalas, his niece. When persons who suffered try to describe the harm they incurred, and speak up so as to make amends by warning prospective recruits about the history of SY, all too often the people who experienced only the bliss, show up and give various arguments along
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Your sense of bewilderment matched what I remembered from similar incidents. It is very, very lonely feeling as though you're the only person who does not get it, while everyone else seems so connected with each other and 'with it.' But...that is what was orchestrated at the infamous Nuremburg rally. Similar stuff happened during pope burning rallies in London in the 17t
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FYI A friend who has been a crew member on many week long athletic events once said that during orientation, all participants were told that on warm to hot days, never, ever rest or take a nap in your tent. Why? Because on a warm to hot day, a nylon two person tent becomes a hot box, even if the flap is left open. You can dehydrate and overheat without being aware of it, and endange
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QuoteIt's like all of a sudden there's some 1800's type of social stigma against talking about cults. It's been scary experience for me, to tell you the truth, I just needed to vent to keep my sanity. That's what RR.com is here for. Someone named 'Hartley' describes how he or she felt in a situation involving a different leader. This conveys the bewilderme
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Note: former followers of Prem Rawat humorously refer to themselves as ex-Premies. This second URL is from the site given above. It not only links to a good article, but the top section gives a much more readable map of the entire site. A forum discussion within the ex-premie site. If you read at the start, some discussants state that in the early years Prem Rawat told followers to
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Dont let your sister pay for you to attend. Doesnt matter how well off she and her husband are. For all you know, they may be getting special treatment, because they are deep pockets donors. If you let her pay for you to attend, you're giving power over to your sister and that is no context in which to to achieve actual personal empowerment. Dont let her pay for you to visit her e
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Hi Pinky. I took a quick read on this thread. Speaking only for myself, just from the information given on that thread, as a devout introvert, I would stay away. There may be no amount of information that will assist you to feel 100% at ease in facing down both your sister and her husband and refusing to attend this thing. If your sister has a history of dominating you and running
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You guys might find something in these URLs. They relate to two different groups, and using different language, also describe creation of a split between ones core self and a newly created cult self--and the dissonance causes tension. Quote(a small excerpt quoted from a longer article.) Cult belief systems present a vision in which any individual, through following the group's teac
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Quote One correspondent wrote in the comments section of the East Bay Express article: "What if management meant being accountable for the spiritual emergence of one’s staff as well as the well being of one’s company?" A second correspondant made this point: What if the "spiritual emergence" of the staff didn't conform to the aluminium-top-hat-wearing visio
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I knew someone who used to work on a psychic hotline. She was a thoughtful woman and had trained with a medium in her native Scotland. X said she gave up working on the psychic hotline, despite its being a good source of income. 'I became worried because too many people who were already poor were calling and asking for me. They told me enough about their situation that I knew they coul
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Some Readings For Continuing Education Multiple personas in a high demand group (Adidam) Broken Yogi comments on how a friend in the group could suddenly turn on you and accuse you of being 'a crazy heretic'. [http://www.adidaarchives.org/fake_belief_irrational.htm
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'psychological damage' wrote: Quoteagree, in ILP i had "the best life", looking back, i don't see what was so great about no free time, lacking in money, and extreme stress. Here's a question to those persons who did take the ILP course. What was the age range of the people who seemed to be thriving in it at the time you were there? Do the people in ILP te
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If you type 'sparkly eyes technique' into the ordinary google search bar, look whatcha get: And in a different search, here is an article on eye make up. QuoteI am a model and I have bright blue eyes that I need to make stand out more in pictures. Any tips on how to do so? (You can learn almost anything at RR.com if you hang out with us long enough) The article abov
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Landmark Jargon
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It is as though this message board serves some of the functions of a witness protection program. LGATs hate it whenever there is a venue for discussion that they cannot control, either by shutting it down, or by running shame games by making it seem those persons bearing witness are getting off on 'victim mentality'. Or the LGATs try to disrupt discussion by sending in 'ast
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In case anyone missed it, there is a long thread about ET on another part of the message board. In case anyone got bored due to the troll invasion on this thread, you can read this other thread and learn a lot. One correspondant PSI Surivor, reported trouble in her workplace because her boss got into ET and brought ET affirmation cards to work and passed them around. (This person was strugg
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QuoteAll sadness is a tantrum How interesting. When I was sad and began to weep, my mother, a chronic alcoholic, who feared sadness, her own and others, used to tell me, 'Tears are anger'. What Mom told me is the kind of thing a child is told in an invalidating environment. Mom did this in private as an alcoholic parent. She didnt go out to recruit a following. And I did
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Invalidating Environment--A Discussion of Dialectical Behavior Therapy Quote '.The term 'Invalidating Environment' refers essentially to a situation in which the personal experiences and responses of the growing child are disqualified or "invalidated" by the significant others in her life. The child's personal communications are not accepted as an accurate indicat
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Quote"Ironically, the material warns the reader of the possibility of becoming a,"canidate for the madhouse," but who would take that seriously" Many people would read 'this will make you a candidate for the madhouse' and take it as a dare. Someone offering you a seat at a game played with marked cards will find a way to make this set up look like a grand adv
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At the end of her memoir describing how Andrew Cohen changed from a formerly considerate and gentle son into a brute and a woman hating bully, Luna Tarlo could only guess that the root cause was the intoxication of attaining absolute power over a group, via the mythical infallibility attributed to enlightenment--and to the guru role. Devoted disciples who become troubled by a guru's abusi
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"“a school of transformation disguised as a cafe.”" (the comments are great good fun)
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Tbe comments following Mr Singh's article are all great good fun to read. Two stand out: QuoteAnonymous said... Dear Harmanjit, Have you ever sat with Sadhguru and asked him a question yourself? If you get the chance, I would recommend it. Like the person who responded earlier as "snonymous," Sadhguru does answer the question for that one particular asking it. If you had
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