There's a lot of info on Amway and other MLMs in the Multilevel Marketing section of the forum index page.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Wow - Sounds exactly like Introduction to the Landmark Forum. Good for you for keeping your wits about you and getting out. Those poor kids. Fortunately, people are taking action against these types of prisons, for lack of a better word. Some of the schools are being closed down. Thanks for telling your story here. Hope
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse

Avery, What kind of training or agenda did DeSisto provide you with? I'm wondering if their curricula fit the typical LGAT one.
Forum: Clergy and Therapy Abuse

Someone alerted me to the testimonials on Denis Waitley's website. Funny how many of the big corporations are looking for "bailout" money from the govt now.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

We're talking for-profit people and organizations who covertly use NLP techniques, physical stressors, and other manipulations on their unsuspecting paying customers, and who make them sign waivers without providing the true nature of their programs. If you explore the website, you'll find plenty of information on how to discern religion, military, advertising, from cultic individuals
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Having been burned, nearly killed, by a physician who seemed to be so wise and educated in science and the different spiritual paths, I no longer elevate anyone to a higher standing, especially as an idol (that I never did anyway). However, I don't distrust anyone either - I let them speak and observe their behaviors. Surviving a con artist really provides valuable lessons in dealing with
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Byron Katie Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:00 PM—10:00 PM | At Newton Wellesley Hospital (Wellesley, MA) (my note - this is either being sponsored by a school called National Inst. for Whole Health or the hospital or both - not sure yet). TIMES Magazine calls Byron Katie "A spiritual innovator for the new millennium." Byron Katie, founder of The Work, has one job: to teach people
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

ON2 LF, There have been many great informational posts over the years on these threads, but the one you just posted is probably the most profound I've read regarding Religion v. Landmark. Hope
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Quoteblue skyI'm surprised there have been no more responses to this post. I would really love to hear about people's experiences with Pranic Healing. There are so many people out there making big promises and I'm hoping it's not the case with PH. The threads here discuss manipulative groups, practices and individuals, not really the pros and cons of healing practices, unles
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

SeanK, Though you might think that religions are culty because of their beliefs, the institutions do not use covert practices to acquire and retain congregants. They put their beliefs out there for anyone to consider. Again, comparing Landmark to religion or to any system of psychotherapy is comparing apples to cars and dogs. Please read up on modern day "cults" and manipulat
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Sallie, Please elaborate. Why do you have quotation marks around the word chose? Also, getting back to the topic of the thread, what are your thoughts on those in abusive relationships, not cults? Thanks, Hope
Forum: Abusive and Controlling Relationships

Maybe not so much GAT (but I believe that's where she learned how to do what she's doing), but definitely manipulative, deceptive and potentially dangerous for people in a very vulnerable situations. An excerpt from above blog... Maybe not so much GAT (but I believe that's where she learned how to do what she's doing), but definitely manipulative, deceptive and
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

She's now honoring posters' requests to have their posts deleted. Several were not able to access the Catbox even with the method you graciously provided. If members were banned, they could not access the Catbox and for a while, no one could read unless they were a registered member. Some could not access their own stuff because she had changed their usernames - one to Dingbat! Ma
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

A couple people have contacted the NYC licensing board. Her site is up again and in one thread that she started, about "what happened" she states she had to take the site down while sorting out things and seeking legal counsel. My abusive doctor talked about seeking legal counsel when I was questioning him. I see that as a veiled threat to anyone who questions these clowns.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

The following excerpt is from the doc's interactive board where abused people tell their story and the doctor posts advice (on the website, she uses a bright blue font - I've bolded and italicized). (Abused woman) My son has been very supportive. He is a very good kid coming from a couple of formerly - much better lately - screwed-up parents! But I also worry that I shouldn't be
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

I think you are absolutely correct about BK. Though her homepage bookshelf lists all the heavy hitters in the psychology, like Albert Ellis, it is her own assessment of BK's work "cognitive therapy in disguise" and the fact that she recommended BK in her private practive, that is behind a lot of her words and actions, though some actions are dumb-founding. A long-term, adored pos
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

She has "temporarily" closed her forum but is adding to the home page. www. Dr Ir ene. com is the forum, if it comes back up. There were quite a few threads from the recent past regarding Byron Katie, The Secret, and BK was a part of the resource section. The doc praised BK's work and recommended it to her clients, though, to be fair, she also has many "legit" authors
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

The therapist who owns and operates the verbal abuse board posted real identities and email addresses of some of her long-time posters when they started asking questions of her about her double standards. This is serious, as some of these people are in very abusive relationships, cannot afford therapy, and have been using that board for support. Not only has personal information been posted, bu
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

This is a pretty good Wiki article regarding the total responsibility assumption vs partial responsibility. I found it helpful after having a naturopath who was into all the new-age nonsense PLUS Landmark and who used all this on his patients.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

You've pretty much summed it up, Corboy. The forum has a bunch of supporters who are circling the wagons around the forum owner. The mass marketing of The Secret, What the Bleep, and the messages expressed on Oprah and Dr. Phil, have appealed to many who are at their most vulnerable, and all the posters on this particular forum are vulnerable, being abused. The supporters are pretty muc
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

Another poster on the verbal abuse forum is having a very hard time with what is happening. She has articulated the crazy-making discussion going on there. It all smacks of LGAT rackets and how they are used to confuse, and also to insulate the manipulator. This is kind of sad to read. Her words are in italics. I have more thoughts relating to this (that kept me awake yet AGAIN this morni
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

There is a meltdown happening on a forum that I used to frequent, especially in the immediate aftermath of my Landmarkian doctor. Apparently something political was posted by the owner of this website, a site for people who have been verbally abused. It is against the rules to post anything political becauase the threads usually just deteriorate and everyone ends up pissed off. The PhD owner b
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

QuotebilliesueIt seems no one has responded in almost 2 years. I cannot find anything damning about Abraham-Hicks. I have seen Abraham/Ester speak on video and if this is fake she is good. There are no pauses, such as a...like if I were speaking. The thoughts flow like from another source, maybe I am a sucker but I have learned a great deal. Research some of the greats in history, their live
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes

Makeup, That message was a cover-my-ass-in-case-they-take-legal-action message. They really do all go to the same training camp. When I made things really difficult for my doctor, who was recruiting for Landmark, I got a very poorly written email explaining that I was a woman scorned, that I wanted a romantic relationship with him, wanted party drugs, and when I didn't get them, I fre
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

In 2001, I received a full refund after I completed the Forum. It took a lot of phone calls on my part (they never returned phone calls at the times I told them I was available).
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

If you are hesitant about immediately obtaining legal counsel, at least contact your state Attorney General's office and/or Labor Dept. Be careful how far you go with them, however, as it could preclude a legal case if you decided to go that route later on.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"

I couldn't have gotten through my experience without this board. The information gleaned from the home page and from other posters led me on an eye-opening study of cults, cult-like groups and individuals, and all the stuff associated with them. This site is an invaluable resource for those recovering and for those who want to learn.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Bumping this up. I've heard a couple veru vulnerable people talking about this organization, so word might be getting out.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

Soleal3, Sometimes they're very good at being con artists, too. I got comfort in knowing that my guy had conned his medical school (he got in without completing his pre-med coursework) and everyone in his local professional association. It wasn't until my complaint to the local assoc. that they realized my guy never followed through on providing paperwork, etc., but they were so co
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"

I call it "cognitive therapy in disguise" to help you love you and accept what is... Loving What Is: Four questions that can change your life by Byron Katie. This is what the first psychologist I went to said about BK's book, and this is also part of a review on a reading list on her website. Now, she seemed like a perfectly normal, well-educated, PhD, and she specializes in
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"