Two pages of long, rambling incoherent posts (again)? Time to look a couple of pages back! What needs to be buried so you won't see it?
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The Mooji squad all seem to argue the same line: "That's not been my experience so it's definitely not true because GOD". Here's some choice quotes, some more considered than others: Omkara wrote: "He doesn't want ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY. He is pure love, pure truth, and this world is so lucky to have such a being of his caliber in this age. Also, the people
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On the topic of casually-implied-lineage -that-can-be-denied-as-unimportant-when-necessary: This lithuanian interview is about a mooji-endorsed spiritual teacher who calls himself Ajibaba - "Daddy Aji". Real name John.  Endorsed means that he is using Mooji's name to bottom feed the satsang crowd. The same is true with another teacher called Nitya from Poland. Most of the
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Yes, the idea that it can unground you reminds me of how other spiritual groups say you shouldn't read certain spiritual texts because it can make you sick. Or how when you're with the guru, thinking is impossible because the ashram's energy level is just so 'potent' (cue porn jazz). And of course the classic mooji gambit designed to rush you: "don't miss you
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alonzo Wrote: > > My advise is to not watch a video such as this. > It can be very ungrounding to your awareness and > is more harmful than most realize. It shows very clearly what Corboy was saying about creating a sense of false intimacy. Its much funnier if you Google "porn jazz" and play that music in the background while you watch it.
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Try watching this seven minutes of deep eye contact with Moojijiji after Braco. This version is a little bit more candlelit dinner. Good luck reediting this with some sultry saxophone, the copyright team will get you:
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Interesting document here. Margaret singer's "conditions for mind control"
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From 'The Manipulation of Spiritual Experience: Unethical Hypnosis in Destructive Cults' by Linda Dubrow-Marshall, Ph.D. and Steve K. Eichel, Ph.D., ABPP "Some theories explain sudden cult conversions in terms of the social pressures exerted when a recruit is subjected to total environmental (milieu) control, while others single out the control of information flow as being the
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Double binds in zen (koans) supposedly serve to quieten the psychological mind and get in touch with midichlorians. But it's not magic, or that rare, and it is easily abused. "You blame yourself for feeling confused, frustrated, and conflicted. You tell yourself you must be doing something wrong. You are not following the “system” correctly enough. You have too much ego (too much
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"As seitas são, assim, sociedades religiosas lideradas por um individuo carismático que, ao invés de fazer a ponte entre o Divino e o homem, coloca-se no centro da religião, passando a ser ele o pai de toda a comunidade, numa atitude de falso paternalismo. Um líder que promove a desigualdade entre membros, colocando-se no topo de uma hierarquia elitista. Um líder que vai juntando súbditos, l
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How to recognize a cult leader, and lots of other info in spanish
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This article, by a zmar participant it seems, asks the question: is mooji the next osho? It raises two interesting points: 1. Yup 2. What's dutch for clickbait?
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Constantin wrote: "politics and power games within the Ashram". As is the case in any organization. But this does not gel with the image of the ashram. It would be normal for a business to hide its inner bullshit from CUSTOMERS. But when all your labor is for free, the line between customers and staff has to be blurred. Because why are you just giving free labor to a to
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"Shame is the currency of cults and their leaders. The human potential for shame, to feel not good enough, bad or unworthy, is what cult leaders exploit. These traumatizing narcissists instill shame in their followers, using belittling, intimidation and humiliation, alternating these with displays of love and acceptance, in such a way as to convince the follower that their only hope for rede
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Ah ok, must be a different angry letter that year. Are you sure? This is what bringinthecat wrote: "I went to mooji's ashram in 2014 for a few months. I was doing seva there on their building projects, building a new temple. I had a good time and got a lot out of it. reading all this had brought back a memory that I feel I should share though, because it bothers me in retrospec
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Oh I heard it was actually some fundamentalist Christians that were doing the death threating because he was acting like Jesus. Threats are of course unacceptable. Are you referring to bringinthecat's post, which mentions 2014, where Mooji read out a angry devotee's letter live on air and in front of hundreds of people? It can't be that because in early 2014 the security team w
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"For example, let us say that a satsang teacher has chosen the spiritual nickname of Foo. Now Foo is the actual name. By adding “ji” to it, the name itself is made into Fooji. Everything then gets convoluted. Everyone referring to Mr. Foo is forced to call Mr. Foo, Fooji! This essentially means “Respected Foo.” The option to call Mr. Foo, simply Foo or Mr. Foo is thus taken off the table. T
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A useful website called rationalwiki has this to say on theta healing: * Anyone worried about throwing out the baby with the bathwater while reading this site should ensure their baby is seated properly in an upright position, with seatbelt on, and spare diapers stored either in the overhead locker or below the bathtub in front of them. Sorry mixed metaphors there.
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Willoughby Britton on meditation- related difficulties: building competency
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Sadgame wrote: >But it is also my opinion that though reform in itself is not malicious or harmful, it is the purpose for which it is employed that makes all the difference. If the purpose is to make people free of their suffering or bring the to a fundamental knowledge about reality, which as an apologist I would say the purpose of Mooji's group is, than I would put the enterprise
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Corboy, Mooji only spent a few months with his own guru poonja. Most of it in a public satsang environment as far as I can gather (since he's avoided giving any clear details on this publicly). There is a picture of osho in the ashram, next to many other gurus. I think it's more of a catch-all, Scientology-like attitude to other teachings.
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I hope you get well soon, SadG, but it could be that you have been overcome by the apologist flu-state, much like the satsang flu-state. In this state you should not trust your perception or have any opinions, which are all clouded by the flu-state. But rather just listen and trust that we are right. I have been quietly asking your friends to make your life harder and more frustrating, in order t
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happytown Wrote: -------------------------------------------- > The question is: what do you do with the > individual in this, now vulnerable, state? > And also of course, was the individual aware of what they signed up to in the beginning? Did they imagine they would become so helpless? I understand many eastern spiritual traditions would not consider the actual indoctrinati
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Exploitation can come about through indoctrination. You had the ability to choose in the beginning. But you have lost that ability. You are a slave, because: A closed ashram environment makes double binds fast and effective. Double binds were first observed as prolonged mixed messages from parents that led to schizophrenia in children. Double binds in ashrams, on the other hand, have a speci
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This Mooji follower lived in Oregon and didn't think much of wild wild country:
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I don't agree that conscious malicious intent is an indicator. I'm sure they believe in what they're doing. I'm sure they believe it completely. As rrmoderator stated, the question is not intent but behavior. And a lack of accountability for that behavior. Some ethics issues I have read that may be more or less controversial: - I think Mooji started with good inte
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> Even reports from those who live or lived at > Sahaja seem just to confirm that social dynamics > around moo are cultlike because he is being > worshipped but that he is a human being after all, > i don’t feel they show malicious intent or > coercion. Please correct me if Im wrong. It's not clear what the conclusion is here. You appear to say: 1. Dynamics are cul
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Learned helplessness and the art of indoctrination :
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Just came across this staged meeting with Mooji and a few select senior members of the group talking about negativity online
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