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11 years ago
mysticjaw
Corboy, thats exactly what these things read like. And I can personally attest to it. I have had a manic eppisode brought on by medication mishaps. It make no sense to the rational mind and is indeed pure madness!
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
but unlike wolves which are real predators, and who kill for survival, people like BK feed on their own kind in a sick and twisted way. They enjoy taking from those they feel are sheep and weak, they enjoy playing with their prey in a sick and twisted way and tell you that they are your best friend, teacher, it is spiritual or some other crap. It all comes down to the fact that those with ser
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
If you look closely at both Katies and Tolles eyes you will see that they are dissociated! Especially Tolles! This look is often confused for the deeply present look of truly enlightend spiritual teachers. Tolle has pushed all of his stuff into deep recesses in his mind and is convinced that he has found enlightenment. When this coping mechanism fails, his mind will become flooded with the th
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Byron Katie should be locked up! This woman is putting people so close if not over the edge into full blown mania! What is this woman thinking? She has no moral or ethical right to do these types of things to people! Her work may not be illegal, but it sure comes close. No legitimate group counselor or leader would ever do any of the types of things thsi woman does! The tactics I read fro
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
They will do jail time, eventualy. Just like their grandparent organization Scientology. They have repeatedly heckled me on my youtube website and my direct criticisms of EST which I was dragged through by my mother. I have been calling their "trolls" on their tactics. creating and deleting accounts and putting up sophistric statements on my videos. Although I cannot take them
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Personally, I don't think I would be terribly upset at being called a "muggle" just means that I am not living in fantasy world like so many new agers. I was deeply involved with the new age mumbo jumbo for quite some time, and now I know it for the garbage in it and the dammage new age people can do to people lives. I do have to agree with Ex-New Rager that the three principles
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
You will find more detailed information under the topics relating to the Sterling Insitute of Relationship. I highly recomend that you get as informed as possible and do not under any circumstances engage him in conversations about MDI. He might and or will try to bring you aboard. STAY AWAY! I was involved with Sterlings "mens division" for some time and know first hand the dammage
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Although I am a homosexual male, this group and its principles turns my guts to water. They are exposing peoples underlying selves and making them vulnerable to manipulation. When one stops thinking, or it is suspended, you ego defenses are down and one becomes suceptible to conditioning/programing. In these circumstances, one can easily be manipulated and or used and then have it turned arou
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
They are evil in the sense that they have no moral or ethical conciousness. And they lack empathy, completely. Jack Rosen or Werner Erhard said that life was empty and meaningless. Those who suffer from the Narcicistic Personality Disorder speak quite often of the emptiness inside of themselves. Normal people have empathy, ethics and morals which guide our lives healthily. I think that Jack/
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Brainwashing is quite real and alive. It is a form of hypnosis. Slowly and deliberately, your natural ego defenses are brought down, critical thinking is stoped (or supressed if it has not developed) emotions are placed on high and your perceptions are slightly altered. The experience can be done in sequecial steps (over a period of classes) disguised as meditation techniques, but in fact you
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
11 years ago
mysticjaw
I briefly examined the article and looked at the resources. The article appears to be more about conjecture and inference. It was not written in a journal style, dry and completely informative, it is written more in a persuasive style without a solid body of evidence other than inferences to support its theory. Obama is persuasive, charismatic and confident. And he is placing himself on the f
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Yasmin, the group Spiritual Rights Foundation, claimed that their former member Steve Sachez who wrote "Spiritual Perversion," was psychologically dammaged prior to his involvement with the group. Its much easier to scapegoat than take any real responsiblity for what was done to an individual. And yes, it puts the responsibility back in the hands of the former member. In regards
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
This is a LGAT/Cult organization. Look at the backgrounds and credentials of the group leaders. Not one squint of anything truly clinical in group work. Their works are experiential, which is also a good sign that they are not truly qualified to lead such groups. Tantrum yoga? My skepticism is high and my red flags are up all over the place. I have seen this work before in other LGATS and c
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Like Rapologist I too had direct contact with Werner. Unlike him I do not support him or any of the organizational offshoots such as Landmark Education. They are coercive, manipulative and totally suppresive of critical thinking and fredom of personal difference. At the hand of my mother, I was pushed into taking the EST training at the tender age of 12 years of age. I will say that I chose t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Hello, Like yourself I am disgusted and fed up with the New Age movement. There has been some good coming out of it, namely more awareness of the problems plauging our societies, but not much more. Personally, I am now on a quest to obtain a doctorate in Psychology to become a clinical psychologist. I am taking a clinical stance and I personally favor Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It h
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
This is going to take a bit but the best way to describe it is that inside my mind were placed a series of beliefs that were codified and reinforced through hypnotic sugestion and trance states. The core belief is that one is psychic and that what causes everyone elses problems are other people energy in your space, and additionally that you are responsible for all the experiences and things whi
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Recently, I started taking up meditation again after throwing out techniques which I used for the longest time. I learned meditation from the Berkeley Psychic Insititute, but I have since stoped using there methodology. I found it to be quite disconcerting to constantly be needing it and finding out that I was really going into an almost imperceptible hypomanic state. Not good. Now I have tak
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Get a Lawyer immediately! Your husband cannot be forced to take any course which is not required by law for his continual employment. What your husbands boss did is completely illegal, but is imoral as well. Landmark Education is not a true educational institution which provides sales skills, it is a highly manipulative organization built on the principles set down by Werner Erhard. Erhard wa
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Carolyn Myss is like most of the rest of the "new age" crowd and is promoting hype not fact. Although some of her stuff is religious based, I have thronw out all of her books as they are less scientifically based and use unsound psychological practices. Meditation is a powerful tool for insight and developing self awareness, but the person teaching you has to respect your own growth a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Your article is well written and presents a good logical breakdown of the fundamental differences between an MLM and a normal business. Both are pyramidical but there are significant differences in how they opperate. I am quite discouraged now when someone compares an MLM business pyramiding to that of a normal business. They are quite different in their structure. Your point on testimoni
Forum: Multi Level Marketing and Commercial Schemes
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Hello Richard, Bullying and other forms of abuse take place for a variety of reasons, none of which are acceptable. I have been the viticim of calculated workplace bullying and I fought back. I have also been in an abusive relationship, I broke out of it, my family could not see nor support me and told me I overreacted. I am working towards a PsyD (Doctorate in Psychology) as I truly de
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Daytripper, Improper meditation techniques are and can be used to put people in elevated mood states in addition to helping them develop cognitive distortions. In these hypomanic states, one can become delusional and even halucinate. When one halucinates there are several common things one sees and they are as follows; spiders, snakes, little green men, angels, demons and devils. Even every
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
mysticjaw
The Mens division is an offshoot of Sterling and highly manipulative in regards to men and their relationships with other, especially women. DO NOT! under any circumstances quit your job. If you husband is presuring you to do so and you are hesitant to quit, you may have good reasons for not quiting but are not fully aware yet. I did the mens weekend and was involved for some time with Sterli
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
mysticjaw
Hello HR, the most powerful thing which really helped me was just good old fashioned psychotherapy. My psychotherapist truly listened to me and I was finally able to fully grasp the full content of how I was not listened to by my family when I brought up rational thought but they did not want to hear it. CBT and REBT have been very helpful in gaining some level of self worth and self esteem
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
mysticjaw
I have been involved with three cults in my life. I my teens my mother dragged me and many members of my family into EST and its offshoot organizations. In my early twenties, my mother once again dragged myself and my family into the Sterling Institute of Relationship. In my mid twenties to my early thirties, I was personally involved with a cult church and its offshoot, The Church of Divine M
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
11 years ago
mysticjaw
I too am a child of EST parents. I am now 41 (42 in september) and my entire life with my mother and many other family members revolved around EST. It was not untill last year that I finally realized that EST was a cult which was masqueraded as life enriching program. I did the program at 12 years of age and it took me many years to overcome the psychological dammage which was inflicted upon m
Forum: Former Cult Members and Affected Families
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