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16 years ago
kageki
What exactly about this group? They are bunch of Orthodox Jews. Are they "jew-haters" too? Here is another organization then: QuoteContrary to common perception, Jewish anti-Zionism is not restricted exclusively to the well know Jewish anti-Zionist movements such as Satmar and Neturei Karta. There are in fact many Jewish movements, groups and organizations
Forum: Hate Groups
16 years ago
kageki
Anti-Semitism and Zionism QuoteANTI-SEMITISM BY POLITICAL ZIONISM Although Zionists and others dispute it, the undeniable fact is that revolutionary secular and apostate elements in the Jewish community in Europe contributed greatly to hostility towards Jews after World War I. This aroused hatred of Jews in general among many non-Jews. Benjamin Freedman speech in 1961:
Forum: Hate Groups
16 years ago
kageki
I am a little surprised to see absolutely no mention of these government programs on this site that has been talked about for years albeit usually in the "conspiracy" circles. Well the existence has been established by not only declassified government documents, but now there is even a prominent page on wikipedia. First I just want to put this out there for discussion: MK
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
16 years ago
kageki
Quoteshakti Ethnic cleansing? Give me the numbers on the Palestinian population over the last fifty years. No, I'm not implying "payback time". I support a Palestinian state. They will get it much sooner the second they stop supporting terror against innocent civilians. Do you support suicide bombing? Yes or no. What is involved in creating the state of Israel? Bulldo
Forum: Hate Groups
16 years ago
kageki
Quoteshakti Once again, you ignore my question, and just go off on the usual Nazi "jewish media conspiracy" crap. What's next, Ernest Zundel? How about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? The return of Farfour, the jihadist rat? You are providing valuable sociological insight into the Cult of the "post-911 Nazi/Islamist keyboard courage conspiracy theory allia
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
QuoteshaktiQuotekagekiEither way I still don't believe that somehow gives them the right to establish an occupied territory as you imply. OK, so what justified Islamic conquest of what was formerly Israel in previous centuries? If we are going to go back in time, where does one draw the line? Do you support Jews having their homes and land, which was stolen from them, in Muslim countries r
Forum: Hate Groups
16 years ago
kageki
As far as I know this was one of the original sites that prominently featured Bin Laden being dead way back around 2002. There are numerous links to news article that hints and sometimes says Bin Laden is dead: Report: Bin Laden Already Dead - (Even on Fox news!) If bin Laden was dead, Would the U.S. admit it? There is supposedly a funeral announcement for Bin Laden in an Egypt
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
Quoteshakti I would bet you anything! Are you aware of the jihad in Thailand? Will those muslims stop their jihad if the US leaves Iraq and stops supporting Israel? Will the Muslims in the Phillipines stop? Will the Iranians stop their nuclear program? Will their leader stop hosting Holocaust denial conventions? Will the Sudanese jihadists end their slaughter in Darfur? The answer to all of these
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
QuoteshaktiQuotekageki[ After US withdrawal, the rest of the sane Muslims will most likely put an end to the madman called Bin Laden. This makes no sense. If they want us to leave and consider Bin Laden a "madman", why not deal with him now or hand him over to us? Also, we're not going to assume "most likely" and trust in that. Actually the Afghans did
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
This isn't really a cult per se but in the realm of conspiracy theories. The key here is the talk of the mysterious Illuminati. Just do a search for Illuminati and you will find plenty of websites that talk about this. One of the more famous personalities that talk about the Illuminati or globalists is Alex Jones from www.infowars.com The "United States will not exist"
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
16 years ago
kageki
Quoteshakti Yes, I would agree that it is very complicated and that the US is far from innocent. HOWEVER, as an American, as an infidel, Islam has crossed the line. You are obviously on the other side and wish for us to be destroyed along with Israel. Fine, that is your opinion. In the end, the American people will wake up and you will lose. We will stand by Israel, we will even stand
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
Quote"shakti"Quote"kageki" What about WWII and the Holocaust? Even if we are to believe everything about the "official" historyQuote Yeah, I knew you'd show your true colors eventually. You are not an "earnest skeptic of Israeli policy who loves all people". You are a holocaust denier. Thanks for clearing that up!
Forum: Hate Groups
16 years ago
kageki
QuoterichardmgreenThe founder of the JDL gave an interview in a Jewish magazine and said that much antisemitism comes about because the Jews are a small group who are very influential. I'm Jewish myself and the impact my people have had on the world is staggering. We sparked off a spiritual path that created 2 derivative world religions, namely Islam and Christianity and about 1/2 of the
Forum: Hate Groups
16 years ago
kageki
Quote Absolutely false. What do you think motivates Hamas, Hezollah? Secularism? Are you kidding? Israel allows freedom of religion within its borders, gives women rights, allows gay parades. These kinds of freedoms barely exist ANYWHERE in the Muslim world. Also, as for Israel's birth, you may be too young to have heard of things such as "World War 2" or the &quo
Forum: Hate Groups
16 years ago
kageki
QuoteMoishe3rd Should a Christian explain all the beliefs of Christianity before inviting someone to participate in their religious rituals? Should a Buddhist explain the whole megillah before inviting someone to meditate? Should a Hindu explain the sacrifices and all of the various natures of the Hindu pantheon before inviting someone to place devotions at a Temple? Should a Muslim explain t
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
16 years ago
kageki
Quoteshakti They "have a problem" because Mohammed had a problem with Israel and Jews because they did not accept him as a prophet. This stuff goes way back before '48. If Muslim countries (and European as well, of course) hadn't been so cruel to their Jewish populations, there wouldn't be an Israel. Where is your outrage over the historical treatment of non-musl
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
Quoteshakti On the money. This is just another fool with an internet connection who sees no difference between flat-out nazi propaganda and legitimate critiques of the US and Israel. Judicial-biz is a classic fascist website with only one purpose: blame Jews for all the world's problems. The jihadists are the number one problem in the world today, and the US should mainly be criticized
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
Quote No, I don't think so. I quite specifically laid out the conditions of my interest in dialog, and you rejected them. I have no interest in refuting silly meanderings on your part, nor engaging with one who continues in the mode of "they all do it, so stop blaming the Arab/Muslim fascist death cult Jihaddi terrorist murderers." Nope. I think I'll continue to foc
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
QuoteMoishe3rdPoint taken. What can I say? Your justification for ritual tribalism and disgusting violence is very well stated. You believe that these barbaric practices are acceptable because of grievances stated. I do not. No Moishe. I have stated repeatedly I do not condone any atrocities. Instead of just picking on Arabs, which needs no further details since we are all well aware of i
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
QuoteYes, of course that's your point. "Everybody does it." Therefore the tens of millions of Islamic fascist death cultists need to be understood; need to be communicated with; need to have their imaginary grievances aired; need all kinds of special treatment because, after all, "everybody does it." No, kageki, everybody doesn't do it. First of a
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
QuoteSure it is. Islamic fascist death cultists murder innocent people, mostly other Muslims, at random - anywhere; any time, in the name of their imaginary Death god. If you condemn the Islamic fascists, no matter what bizarre reasoning (such as the things you mentioned) they claim that makes them the "victims," then you can legitimately discuss the flaws of the US or Great B
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
Is Iraq not an occupied country? Prime Minister Al-Maliki has even said they don't need help from the US anymore and they are free to go. Ask any regular Iraqi citizen and they will tell you that it's an occupied country and they simply want the the American troops to leave. Although the US itself may not be as oppressive, the US has been oppressive in other countries. The US suppor
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
It's just absurd to call these organizations outright as cults when the whole mideast conflict is far more complicated then what you make out. Hezbollah, Hamas and most Arabs still have a problem with the existence of the state of Israel along with the numerous human rights violation that Israel commits. Palestine is an occupied territory and Israel continues to bulldoze entire houses wi
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
Why would the US government take this seriously when their very own CIA has participated in mind control programs like the infamous MK-ULTRA? Besides I'm not sure why you are looking specifically into terrorism. Propaganda is essentially a mind control technique that is mixed in with the mainstream media in all countries and any military organization has a department for this or what�
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
I can't say for sure whether it was or was not by Bin Laden all together. It's not implausible that Bin Laden is being used as a patsy as it is an established technique by intelligence agencies. Look up the Lavon affair or even the infamous Reichstag Fire. It's also just as plausible that Bin Laden did do it, where some theories then suggest that the Bush administration knowingly a
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
I find it a little ironic that the thread is about whether Bin Laden is dead or not which is a conspiracy theory in itself and yet consider challenging the WTC collapse to be a conspiracy theory and not welcome here? If you believe Bin Laden is dead that's quite a conspiracy theory isn't it? For the record I do have suspicions about Bin Laden. - some people believe the last orig
Forum: Terrorist and Extremist Groups
16 years ago
kageki
Hi. I just joined this forum because I noticed there was a mention of the group Aish Ha Torah. I'm wondering about this group because I just found out that this group is behind the Hasbara Fellowships which is a government-sponsored activist group which has called for activism on Wikipedia. Is this the same group you are claiming as ultra-orthodox and cult-like? Hasbara Fellowships
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
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