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11 years ago
Cipher
Tom and Isis Ringrose and the Gathering update" They are now recruiting using social media. Check out their website and on facebook. Friends of the Higher forces Higherforces.com Selling books, seeking donations, offers of free access to the channeled materials and offers to become a member. This really seems like a desparate plea to try to remain current and viable.
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11 years ago
Cipher
Tom and Isis Ringrose and the Gathering update" They are now recruiting using social media. Check out their website and on facebook. Friends of the Higher forces Higherforces.com Selling books, seeking donations, offers of free access to the channeled materials and offers to become a member. This really seems like a desparate plea to try to remain current and viable.
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13 years ago
Cipher
Bibliographic data Cult Leader Charged With Child Abuse Author: Posted: 9/19/2004 4:01:20 PM Type: Doc_article Topic/Group: tp_child_abuse Gathering (The) (Thomas and Isis E. Ringrose) Publication:Advisor Vol.: 03 No.: 05 Date: 1981 Page(s): 12 URL: Cult Leader Charged With Child Abuse A
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14 years ago
Cipher
This topic is not dead. I am not sure you can evaluate the status of this group or not. For a long time channeling was the direct link for Tom Ringrose to control the entire group. Even the most minuscule details of students lives were controlled through channeling. If you read the archives of past channeling sessions you will find members asking for advice on health conditions, house remodel
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16 years ago
Cipher
Thanks TheRealDeal for all the replies and updates to your story. It sounds like you were really damaged by your experiences with the Ringroses and I could see how justified your anger must feel to you. I hope that you have been able to get some help in dealing with this so that you can move on and so that the next 35 years will not be filled with more nightmarish suffering. There is support f
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16 years ago
Cipher
QuoteCipherQuoteCipherTry this redirect link to access the channeled sessions at www.higherforces.info FYI They have changed their website top-level domain. To find them go here: Paste the URL into your browser. They have disallowed forwards from the RR Forum.
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
16 years ago
Cipher
QuoteCipherTry this redirect link to access the channeled sessions at www.higherforces.info FYI They have changed their website top-level domain. To find them go here:
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
17 years ago
Cipher
QuoteandycheeI was taught that the guys who formed the constitution were christians, and that now people say they weren't because they want to write God out of our lives. Maybe it's not right to say you have to be christain, but don't we say One Nation under God? What kind of a coun try would we be if there were athiests in charge of us? How would you make any body obey the law i
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17 years ago
Cipher
QuotePost crazy ideas on about what, who, where and how is he possibly able to do what he does. and wait till someone that communicates with him to come along and sets us straight. (I am in no way shape or form Comparing G*D to Tom Ringrose or the Gathering, simply showing how retarted this bulletin is. and should be removed.) Higher Forces = Holy Spirit. Faith = Belief/Devotion in something
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17 years ago
Cipher
Try this redirect link to access the channeled sessions at www.higherforces.info
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
17 years ago
Cipher
My opinion of this group is based on the material that they publish themselves at . They have disabled this link from this site so paste this into your browser. Why they have disabled links from here should be obvious. They are afraid that this so called "teaching" will not be able to stand up to scrutiny and rightly so. In the sessions, Tom has claimed to have been taken up in
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
17 years ago
Cipher
Maybe you were referring to my parentage. Anyway it is an indication that perhaps your position is weak and you have to resort to ad hominem attacks. Lala was reporting that Tom was emotionally abusing the children and adults with mind control. The "Higher forces" are something they call third and fourth density spiritual beings that are on a council that governs the universe. T
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17 years ago
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QuoteRobertTRHello everyone. My name is Robert (Bobby). I live in a Town not far from "The Gathering". I just want to clear the confusion that I have been reading from most of the posts about "The Gathering". snip Those that live at the house are some of the most Kind, accepting, non-judgmental, and level headed people I know. Bottom line is if you have any question
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17 years ago
Cipher
Updates to higherforces.info have really ground to a halt now. I suspect that the psychic "business" of Isis Ringrose is taking all of her time now, but I think that some activity will be brewing soon. I have interviewed several people with direct connection to the "Gathering" and heard one report of a person who was invited repeatedly and finally came to a special session. He
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17 years ago
Cipher
Scholars Scrutinize the Koran's Origin A Promise of Moist Virgins or Dried Fruit? New York Times (and International Herald Tribune), March 4, 2002 Scholars Are Quietly Offering New Theories of the Koran By ALEXANDER STILLE To Muslims the Koran is the very word of God, who spoke through the Angel Gabriel to Muhammad: "This book is not to be doubted," the Koran decl
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
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The Meridian Institute link above is now disabled. Here is the page for Gary V. Koyen bio cached through another link copied below. Gary Koyen was born at Fremont, Nebraska, and grew up on a farm east of Fremont. He attended the University of Nebraska from 1963-1970, completing a doctorate in 1974. In the early seventies he was director of Head Start Project in Lane County, Oregon, and
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17 years ago
Cipher
You are right and it is true that the US was founded on religious freedom and not by fundamentalist christians. Excerpts from: The Founding Fathers Were Not Christians by Steven Morris, in Free Inquiry, Fall, 1995 Also see Deism Links Page "The Christian right is trying to rewrite the history of the United States as part of its campaign to force its religion on others. They
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
Cipher
The owner of the Meridian Institute is Gary Koyen see bio on website above. Apparently Dr.Koyen is a graduate of Lifespring. While Wings certainly exists as a supplement to mainstream religion for many, to look for an official theology or liturgy, one could glance at Scientology or even further back to the New Thought Movement of the early 1900s. However, if Wings had an official
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17 years ago
Cipher
Here you will find that they have posted training with Delta airlines and you can read the bios of their staff and founder as well as a description of their radical corporate transformational training methodology.
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17 years ago
Cipher
The following example from the website of the gathering, www.Higherforces.info shows that they are contemplating selling sessions to new people with a sliding scale based on income. How generous of the higherforces. I was intrigued by the Forces need to go public but only to those with faith who will not ask practical questions. However Isis asks about what Christmas party to have or when to ha
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17 years ago
Cipher
This is the entire session for you to see. Of note are the references to Earl Hamner author of The Waltons who lived in Schuyler, VA near Charlottesville. IS refers to Isis who is married to Tom Ringrose and is a "psychic" herself although you will see she is worried about the winter and how to advertise to her clients. Unfortunately the Higherforces are not Diane Warwick's Psych
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17 years ago
Cipher
Colter: Is the UB a channeled document? How have you verified what you believe to be the truth contained there in? If you read the entire thread about Higherforces, Tom and Isis Ringrose then you will know that the Gathering is the name of their community. Also there is a link to a community resource web page in which they have a listing. Please post about your experiences with the U
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18 years ago
Cipher
The website has not been updated since the death of the trance channeler Thomas John Ringrose or Thomas J. Ringrose or Tom Ringrose. It has been about 219 days and they are silent. I expect that psychic Isis Ringrose will carry on as best she can. Perhaps Jehu or Cameron will be struck with the channeler bug and begin a new career channeling the dead TJR. Then we will have a live channeler ch
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18 years ago
Cipher
Thanks for the indepth insights about the Gathering and Tom Ringrose. I was not praising their efforts of feeding the hungry so much as reporting what activities outside of channeling aliens that I had heard about them. You are the first report of any abuse or other problems that I have heard about them but I had my suspicions. What about Isis? Was she involved in the abuse? What of the other
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18 years ago
Cipher
On the www.higherforces.info site it appears that the channeler, Tom Ringrose passed away. His asthma flared up and he died unable to breath in the arms of his wife Isis. I am disturbed that a life has passed while indulging in the fantasy of trance channeled alien entities/angels. But on some level he must have chosen to believe those voices in his head rather than seeking treatment for a dise
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18 years ago
Cipher
I am enjoying the discussion of this topic. Tom Ringrose the trance channel for the Gathering had a bio posted on the website (It's now gone) and his position is easily verified on the web, so I believe the information of his abilities to perform his day job are accurate. This does not mean he is sane but just adaptable in his ability to compartmentalize his experience. One the one han
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18 years ago
Cipher
After investigating the Gathering/ and the trance channel, Tom Ringrose, I have an issue that needs input. While I cannot agree with the channeled material or methods involved in these so called psychic sessions I have seen no evidence of forced coersion or undue influence or manipulation of others. My question revolves around the other work this person does. Tom Ringrose is a health unit co
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18 years ago
Cipher
Yes, I agree. Channeling is like cold psychic reading and the Gathering, by the shear quantity of material, over 30 years of channeled madness, occasionly makes a hit. As for their money making I don't see it. They pool their income and really do not generate a stream of income. There is the possibility of income from their website online store, but I cannot imagine that it amounts to much
Forum: Coercive Persuasion and Undue Influence
18 years ago
Cipher
The following was copied from their newsletter posted on their website: "What the “Miracle of Love” Workshop Offers What if you really could have all the love you want? What if you could communicate with love and respect for others and yourself in any situation? What if you could accept and love your body, mind and spirit unconditionally? You can! The “Miracle of Love” workshop is a
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
19 years ago
Cipher
A new listing with details of the higherforces, The Gathering community are here.
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