If anyone missed it, a must read is the lawsuit from Colleen Conaway's family against James Ray and his employees who were involved in her death. The pdf document is here. According to that statement, Colleen was ridiculed by Ray and/or his minions, for a business idea she had. She also refused to dress as a homeless person, and was flamed, and attacked for that as well. The stateme
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Ching Hai and Jasmuheen are cut from the same cloth. Ruthless profiteers at any cost, even unto (others) deaths or permanent injuries. These persuaders have learned that in fact advanced persuasion skills used in this context, can drive people to the point of sacrificing their own lives. 4 people died at recent new age seminars for James Arthur Ray He is now on trial for the deaths of
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yep, low-protein diet and sleep-deprivation, very standard stuff. "playing all out" is stolen from Tony Robbins, that means following orders/suggestions, and "maxing all out" your lines of credit, buying the Gurus worthless junk, stolen from other Gurus. James Ray was recklessly doing all the basic and some advanced techniques, on people who don't know about these t
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The Mankind Foundation Also Known As: MKF Physical Address: Fishers, IN 46038 1744 _____________________ For a supposed "charity foundation"... where is the IRS Form 990 for The ManKind Foundation, which shows where all the money is going? Why have MKF-MKP refused to openly post that document on their website, so people can see where the money/millions have gone? Why do the
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@ Sandman, You've exposed many of the precise cultic techniques being used by Bernard Poolman. Poolman has learned these techniques from copying various other cults and sects he's been involved with over the years. Examples: - internal group confessions to maximize control by the leader. - diet control - sleep deprivation - control of personal appearance of followers - fi
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By the way, mental breakdowns, decompensation, dissociation, psychoses, and other serious problems that lead to the emergency ward, happen ALL THE TIME at these LGAT seminars. Its not rare. Why? That would be a complex question. But as discussed in other threads, just the extreme STRESS alone, combined with severe sleep deprivation, fasting, triggering past traumas and PTSD, and many other thin
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Its fascinating to look at some of the legal writings and definitions of CONSENT and VOLUNTARY. The LGAT Gurus have had their legal experts research and write up their waivers to try to cover their ass on that front. They FORCE you to sign a waiver to attend the seminar, if you do not sign they won't let you in, and will keep the money as the contract was done previously. So they are e
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Don't know anything about Grant Cordone, he does his own seminars and had some past connections with James Ray, but there was a post that has some info in it on James Ray. More James Ray links with NLP neuro-linguistic programming. Grant Cordone "What do I know about this? I met James Ray over seven years ago in my home in San Diego. Ray was trying to break into the seminar busin
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_______________QUOTE________________________ A Life Interrupted: Remembering Kirby Brown by Cathy Buchanan ... According to those who survived, the five-day workshop began with classroom work, after which the 60 participants were told to shave their heads in a symbolic gesture representing rebirth -- a new beginning. Kirby was hesitant, and held off on cutting her hair for a day, then ga
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Unfortunately, the comment above by David Baxter is quite disingenuous. What he posted is clearly a professional endorsement and a promotion of the Byron Katie International BKI business. It is even exclusively featured in the REVIEWS section of his website. The Work of Byron Katie David Baxter Published by David Baxter September 3rd, 2007 David Baxter has posted a huge sect
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Tony Robbins does that as a deliberate tactic. Robbins knows that most people actually need 7-8 hrs a night, and some need less, some more, everyone is unique. So he sets up another impossible goal, to encourage people to try to sleep deprive themselves in their daily lives, so they can be a bigshot like him. Of course, Robbins knows most people fail, he sets it up as a goal that is meant to fa
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hello "sushigrl" and others. Its very important to see the direct comments from those who have been in SGI since childhood. One can see the first hand evidence going back decades, how Ikeda has used his extreme influence techniques within family groups and on young children. For example, if Ikeda is going to NAME a child, that again sets up a powerful Identity control (Ikeda hop
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That is a good report. You can see MKP is trying to do a number of things. They are trying to mimick the "Initiation" ceremonies from tribal cultures where boys become men. That is why they feel justified lying to people and tricking them about what is going to happen, as in tribal societies they terrorize the boys in these ceremonies, and don't tell them anything. This report
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How many of these known torture techniques have been reported to be used in the James Arthur Ray programs and James Ray Games PsyOps? How many more? PHYSICAL TORTURE: Sweatboxes Oxygen deprivation Starvation Thirst Sleep-Deprivation Extremes of temperature Noise, loud music Foot burning Bone breaking (hand) PSYCHOLOGICAL TORTURE: destroying the subject's normal self-i
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One interesting thing from Nightline, is that they do talk about James Ray's past as a telemarketer and salesman. Its a classic story. Professional salespeople take all sorts of courses and trainings about improving their sales skills, and closing skills, negotiating, and persuasion. So they can make more money. There are many books and seminars on this subject. There are also many
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The Awareness Page still exists in the internet archive. For now. Someone should archive a copy of it somewhere. If anyone went after that website, its probably the Landmark LGAT. Notice it does contain links on Impact Trainings, and many other groups. The Awareness Page. James Arthur Ray has taken every single technique he can get his hands on out of the LGAT seminars. Beyond that
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buffman: Some very good points below. Especially about Stanley Milgram, lots to explore there. Since you have done the Tony Robbins LGAT, you could point out here the similarities between James Ray and Tony Robbins techniques. (and Tony Robbins has many more seminars after UPW of course, isn't that an intro seminar?) James Ray does use his tactics in virtually every sentence he utte
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QUOTE "She also described a game — enacted again at the retreat this month — in which Mr. Ray wears white robes and plays God, ordering some participants to commit mock suicide." What really happened to Colleen Conaway? James Ray is shown using one of the most vile techniques ever devised. He sets himself up into a Godlike position, done as a "game". But what it
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_____________________________ Sweat Lodge Victims "Definitely Murdered" Family Members of Sweat Lodge Victim Say Guru was Playing "Dangerous and Trying Physical Games" (CBS) Two weeks ago, around 60 people sat in a packed sweat lodge in Arizona when tragedy struck. The participants were on a so-called spiritual retreat organized by self-help guru James Arthur Ray
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There is a post here about another LGAT seminar system called the Mankind Project, which also uses a so-called sweat-lodge. An ex-MKP Warrior reports: Looks like both of these groups are deliberately using plastic covering on the lodge. (its not a real sweat lodge of course, it should be called a brainwashing tent.) Obviously that plastic would be put on the structure intentionally, t
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There is also another thread about James Arthur Ray and his so-called "sweat lodge" and other issues. Looks like both of these groups are deliberately using plastic covering on the lodge. (its not a real sweat lodge of course, it should be called a brainwashing tent.) Obviously that plastic would be put on the structure intentionally, to create some level of "asphyxia"
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According to the news report above... __________QUOTE_________________ * A May 2005 event at Disney World, where a New Jersey woman shattered her hand after Ray allegedly bullied her into performing a ritualistic board-breaking exercise. In the Disney World incident, a 2005 negligence lawsuit charged a "reckless" Ray pushed seminar attendee Diane Konopka to smash the board to &q
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_______________QUOTE EXCERPTS from article__________________ Breaking news: Inside accounts of James Ray sweat lodge tragedy and retreat October 16, Cassandra Yorgey - "People are flailing in seizures; others are vomiting violently, or foaming at the mouth. Bodies are lined up unconscious, some are blue from lack of oxygen, but for some it is too late, they are already dead. Survivor
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What happens with these extreme LGAT seminars, is that people don't just take one single seminar. They hook them in, and reel them in, and they take seminar after seminar, going deeper into the rabbit hole. The seminar leaders use dozens and literally HUNDREDS of the most powerful influence and mind-crushing techniques on people, including extreme sleep deprivation, food and water depriv
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Another death is being reported at a James Ray LGAT seminar in a comment from the CBS news website. Notice the "field trips", sleep deprivation, food deprivation, breaking down people psychologically, acting "homeless", and other precise techniques also used at the Byron Katie LGAT seminars. Byron Katie and "The Work" Participant Reports Contrary to what o
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Another death is being reported at a James Ray LGAT seminar in a comment from the CBS news website. Notice the "field trips", sleep deprivation, food deprivation, breaking down people psychologically, acting "homeless", and other precise techniques also used at the Byron Katie LGAT seminars. Byron Katie and "The Work" Participant Reports Contrary to what o
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Yes, this is the same new age scam artist from The Secret, that Oprah turned into a millionaire, by letting him on her TV show. There were serious warning signs about this guy going back 2 years, posted right here. "The Science Of Success" by James Arthur Ray. James Ray, the greasy salesman pitchman guy from The Secret. There is an entire thread on The Secret, where James Ra
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This is absolutely outrageous. James Ray was one of the people from The Secret. This sounds like a super-LGAT, being held in a over-heated tent. Many of those people were "fasting" and engaging in many LGAT style activities. They are pushing people to the edge, and beyond the edge. This is yet another reason showing what an absolute scam The Secret is, and was And James Ray h
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When Landmark says that only people with a predisposition go into a psychosis..they are LYING. That is a lie. Scientific studies are proving that psychosis are connected to extreme STRESS in life conditions right around that time in their life. And it can happen to people who have no history whatsoever. So these LGAT seminars, like the Landmark Forum, are extremely psychological stressful,
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(cross-post for future reference) There is a recent book for professionals, that most libraries would have. Cognitive-Behavior Therapy for Severe Mental Illness It even has a DVD, with role-play. In that book, it shows how there is scientific evidence in several studies, (page 6-7) that an increase in life STRESS occurs right before hospitalization for people with bipolar and mania, an
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