The Skepdic's Dictionary has a rather long article about "EMDR." Looks like the practice has also attracted the requisite number of opportunists and scammers. Ellen
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Quotemidonov123Researcher, ....Would that lead to psychosis?] Hi MD, I looked at this too. It seeemed to me that the author was suggesting that the sustained refusal or attempt to inhibit the usually automatic response to turn your head towards any movement you perceive in a setting where there is very little peripheral movement would "confuse" or "frustrate" your
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Researcher, Strangely enough, I found your website yesterday night even before I read your post. I was trying to find some explanations as to why Landmark’s system of logic can lead to psychosis. I did your demonstration on the subliminal vision, and I agree with you that the phenomenon exists. However, I fail to understand why a flickering light or movement in my subliminal peripheral visi
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This is an old thread but I am posting this here because of the thread title. Something none of the posts above would be aware of is that large group meetings contain an element to cause subliminal persuasion. The problem arises from a conflict of physiology. It was discovered when workers using the very first close-spaced office workstations began having bizarre or pseudo-psychotic episo
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Uhhh.....Hi there, "Space." Didn't we talk about this on afl? (I can't remember.) >>what about the paper on use of space in landmark,>>> The most likely ~source,~ in my mind, is the self-hypnosis induction: "find a space in your left foot," that came to Werner via Alexander Everett and the Unity Schools of Christianity, th
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No one can predict with pin-point accuracy how you will fare. No one can make that kind of decision for you. But there is a great deal of information available on the RR.com message board and in its groups database that you can read that will enable you to decide, for yourself, whether the risk to benefit ratio of participating will be sufficiently in your favor to justify giving up a weekend
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entitled 'Manipulating the Room Environment.' Certain LGATs may perhaps pack their punch by combining indoctrination with a specific way of setting up the room, and all social interactions are very tightly scripted. Drew Kopp, who was involved with LEC write a remarkable analysis of the room set up, which can be found and read on this thread. He suggests that to the extent that on
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Thanks for your response. I covered the gaslighting some months ago in the "manipulating the environment" thread, I think. I'll briefly rehash it and the other junk that convinced me to toss in the towel after the first six follow-up seminars. The first night, we were allowed 90 minutes to get dinner. We were dismissed at 6:05 PM, so would be due back by 7:35. I was right n
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Its more than a matter of whether someone is introspective or not. First thing is, appeal to curiosity and shame people for being skeptical. Get them into the room and then get them to pry open their check book. If you go the Large Group Awareness Trainings/Human Potential thread, scroll down until you find a cluster of posts entitled 'Manipulating the Room Environment'. Read
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Even if a person takes just one seminar and never goes to another, thats still a clear profit of a couple hundred USD, Euros, Pounds. If someone can be persuaded to return for yet more workshops--thats a steady profit stream. Dont just concentrate on the mental content of these seminars. If you scroll down on the 'Large Group Awareness Training/HP Seminars thread, you will find a very
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Thank you for the detailed explanation of the room environment. Also, FYI, lowering the body's temperature is part of the physiology of falling into sleep or semi-hypnotic state. That is why sleepy people like to curl up in a blanket while watching TV.... can artificially induce such by lowering the temperature of the environment. The above descriptions of environment also apply to my k
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If you want to see what your friend was up against, read the material on this thread which is entitled 'Manipulating the Room's Environment.' Lots of info from persons who used to work forLGATs and who set up the rooms, plus from participants who reported how very tightly scripted social interactions were inside those rooms.
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I remember being so focused on the FL that I completely forgot about the people next to me and especially the people in the back of the room. I remember focusing so hard because the seating was uncomfortable and I knew I had a long weekend ahead of me, because I wanted to block out the people sitting way to close to me and because I thought I needed to listen since the speaker was so pronounced.
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The topic of this thread:Examining and debating the possible role of LGAT room environment and scripting the social interactions to covertly disorient and disempower the subjects while empowering the leader: This bundle of information may perhaps turn out to be the most compelling and useful body of information on LGATs that has been assembled on RR.com's message board. Contributors to
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Logan: I will answer this question. You completely miss the point. An MD that specializes in cancer research has the expertise to deal with issues related to his or her field, not psychology or therapy. What does cancer research have to do with large group awareness training, or group therapy? Unless the doctor is a psychiatrist or psychologist, their training in an unrelated field
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Dear Corboy, You had suggested that someone with other life experiences would make a more suitable seminar leader than someone that was just working around LGATs. My question wasn't of a medical nature. My question is this: If someone leading an LGAT happens to be an MD that has been in charge of Cancer Research laboratories at an esteemed hospital with Ivy League affiliation
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Well, since the WizardofOz is confused to what is actually happening at LEC and felt the need to coerce one of our board members to get his post posted, I decided I would clear a few things up for him. Below are the real LEC definitions of the values LE professes: Being extraordinary! = Being a LEC volunteer, being LEC staff, being a Forum leader AND coercing others to take the courses S
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This thread is a discussion of issues and concerns relating to Large Group Awareness Trainings and Human Potential Seminars. We are not set up to discuss situations like the one you've described. A health-care related website would be more appropriate.
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Corboy was saying...... ((And it means that if you're ever thinking of doing a training seminar, you want to know whether the leader is a man or woman who can function competantly and gracefully in all areas of life--not someone who can only function in a scripted, manipulative social setting. Look for people who have been successful in ordinary human environments and who have not been wo
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Ellen wrote: "The fact that you, and others like you, continue to haul out these minor bits of content is evidence to many of us that you are more "under the influence" than you think. You propose these bits of program that seem legitimate or normal somehow indicate the soundness of the package and excuse or are indicative of the whole. And further, that anyone who uses this &qu
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The most radical thing you can do is outside research on RR.com and other websites, so you can identify the box at a very safe distance and stay out of it. But if an LGAT graduate insists that you can only benefit by not being told beforehand how the process will work--thats what makes it hard to stay out of these boxes. ((A personal hunch/reflection: And it means that if you're ever thi
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Landmarkers consistently trot out these bits of "evidence," these examples of ordinary or common-sense motivational, psychological, therapeutic, feel-good, "warm-up" stuff and mistake these bits of decorative fluff for Landmark program "content." For escaped and all the other "grads" who consider themselves too smart or too clever to be suckered by the L
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Please don't post for others. If someone's post is not approved, it's not approved. In this case, as anyone can see, this Landmark devotee offers the same old repetitive and boring verbiage. The tired refrain, "that wasn't true for me." People like this don't post here to exchange ideas or discuss anything. This individual is simply attempting to
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A subscriber to the name of WizardofOz responded to my private message response to Escappedintact. I presume these 2 people are one in the same. The challenge put to me was to post his message on this board as so I have below. Frankly, I don't understand why he asked me to do it and why he suggested I did not have the courage to do it. Must be some MEME running somewhere in his unconsciou
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You dont have to go through a car crash to know that being in a car crash is a bad experience, best avoided when at all possible. This URL will take you to a long, long list of articles on mind control/aka thought reform otherwise known as ‘brainwashing’ In the article entitled Thought Reform Programs and the Production of Psychiatric Casualties, Singer and O
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I agree with some of your points made in response to my comments. I will clarify what I meant on some of the comments and answer your questions below. In response to my statement below--- >>The emphasis on sharing and being open made me uneasy.>>> Ellen queried--- "Perhaps you sensed that the testimonies were play-acted, forced, or contrived an
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You wrote: >>This may come off as sexist but as a man I was never a big fan of being "in touch with my emotions.">>> The Landmark programs are designed to play on your emotions. Male, female, or neutered, it is emotion that drives and motivates people. If you don't understand the dynamic, or are emotionally "illiterate," you c
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Ginge wrote: "My wife says I have not changed, a friend who has done the Forum says I am more approachable, am not as moody, and more in touch with my emotions" This may come off as sexist but as a man I was never a big fan of being "in touch with my emotions." The emphasis on sharing and being open made me uneasy. I found that striving to be "more open" did
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Ginge, Your reaction to Landmark is quite similar to mine. After the inital euphoria wore off, I was the same person, though the feeling I'd been hoodwinked grew and persisted. However, if that's the worst thing that happened to you (feeling conned), consider yourself lucky! Many of the folks who write in here have suffered the loss of jobs, loving relationships and mental health.
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