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11 years ago
The Anticult
Unfortunately, that person makes the typical error of only looking at the superficial ADVERTISING by Byron Katie, and taking it at face value. In fact, Reality Therapy by William Glaser is the opposite to Byron Katie. In Reality Therapy, you problem-solve new behaviors. Byron Katie is about installing delusions in people, and denying reality, and losing the moon of reality. Byron Katie gets
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
That's part of the REAL reason why Stephen Mitchell suppressed Losing The Moon, as well as the other book A Cry In The Desert, also detailed in this thread. Stephen Mitchell had a strong enough marketing sense to realize all that insane "Nazi" stuff from Byron Katie would destroy her career. So he suppressed it. They literally bought books back, and destroyed them. He also
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Anyone can search the internet for keywords, for Losing The Moon. "Losing The Moon" pdf byron katie Byron Katie - ebook - Losing The Moon (complete).pdf. One has to wonder what the media in Germany, and German citizens will have to say about Byron Katie's many statements about Hitler and the Nazi's and the Holocaust, that she made in her recent book publish
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Here is more proof about Losing The Moon. A Byron Katie insider posted this, about how Stephen Mitchell personally destroyed and bought back copies of Losing The Moon. August 24, 2009 "And there, again, you have one of the reasons why Stephen Mitchell personally destroyed many many copies of Losing The Moon, same reason why he still buys them off the internet. There are just too many o
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Does Byron Katie and her senior staff tell brazen lies? In her suppressed book Losing The Moon, Byron Katie says this... (QUOTE from "Losing The Moon" by Byron Katie.) Quote: "EVERYTHING WE SAY HERE IS A LIE. BUT ONLY EVERYTHING". Superficial and naive followers of Byron Katie better wake-up and quick, and see what is really going on with the complex Byron
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
11 years ago
The Anticult
Google cache of James Ray propaganda page...Setting The (propaganda) Record (Crooked). [74.125.95.132] The ugly propaganda and lies from the JR propaganda machine is profoundly disgusting. But they try to reframe all of the issues...the Guru, cult tactics, steroid use, James Ray God-complex, death fixation, food water deprivation... But notice they deliberately IGNORE the LGAT seminar tac
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
Sensei's World Benjamin Fulford David Whelan, 09.06.04 Soka Gakkai, a strikingly wealthy Japanese sect, tries again for U.S. glory with a splendid new campus. Daisaku Ikeda's unaccountable empire can thank lax treatment of the nonprofit world. Walk the hilly campus of Soka University of America in Aliso Viejo, Calif. and you enter the fabulous world of the international non
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12 years ago
The Anticult
Its amusing that since the price of that old Byron Katie book A Cry In The Desert was about $150, then someone perhaps had a box of them, and is trying to make some money. They even jacked some up to $280. This is a good metaphor for the Byron Katie sales system. They create false "scarcity" and then jack-up the prices to make as much money as possible. Those books are not worth
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
make sure to save some copies of that "movie poster" for the new Byron Katie DVD. It might get Disappeared, after the criticism from her own people. It would also be good to have it uploaded into the thread. Here is what is interesting. This thread has said for ages, that Byron Katie is literally engineering that type of prayer-worship towards Byron Katie in her people. And the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
QuoteJay Cruise These non-duality people believe all thoughts are untrue. Even just on the philosophical level, outside of all the massive persuasion tech, its amazing the basic thinking errors they make. For believing that "all thoughts are untrue"...is a meaningless statement. As "all thoughts are untrue" is a thought, so its not true. Its the liar paradox. Who
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
by the way, just to clarify. Obviously someone like Gurdjieff, mixes in complex info gleaned from many sources, with disinformation meant to confuse people, with personal charisma, outright deception, etc. The reality is these guys just weave a complex labyrinth that lure people in, and never ends. Again, Gurdjieff appears to have been extremely intelligent in that sense. But Gurdjieff also
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
This Mary Poppins Byron Katie connection, is very interesting. The most basic level works as a Regression of the BK School-mates, making adults feel like little children with Byron Katie as your new Nanny. Mary Poppins is a "magical nanny" who TAKES CHARGE of a group of children, and she is "stern, vain, and cross". Mary Poppins never admits her "magical powers",
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
Here's another quote of Byron Katie from another blog, about Nazi's and evil, from Losing The Moon. Of course, there are other meanings going on at the same time. But its clear that Byron Katie literally does not believe in "evil" or anything like that. Jews are like "grass" to Byron Katie in her Nazi story. All of this appears to be a rationalization for Byron
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
That pre-patterned thinking and speaking reminds of the old LGAT days...everyone starts spouting the same JARGON. Why don't the BK folks ever say... "I love what those geniuses are doing on the RickRoss forum. I love how they are the first people to have explained the Truth of exactly how Byron Katie mindwashes most everybody at her LGAT seminars. I love that they -explain what is
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
Of course, if a person is not functioning, then a good psychologist or psychiatrist would have to assess them, to try and find out what is happening. But as far as LGAT's, the reports of damage are extreme and pervasive. People experience psychosis, depression, decompensation, mania, psychotic breaks, dissociation, delusion, and suicide. Many people end up in emergency wards and psych-hos
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
as far as Stephen Mitchell, there have been several reports that he physically destroyed the existing copies of the Byron Katie books, A Cry In The Desert, and Losing The Moon. (she co-wrote and self-published those books herself). Some were somewhat joking when talking about the "burned books" from Byron Katie's hidden past. Well, its no joke. Here is a thread where someone
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
There were some previous posts about Byron Katie and the Nazi's. That's another reason they burned Losing The Moon, if the media saw that, she would have to be responsible for her words. Byron Katie QUOTE: "God is the Nazi too" But the "weird" language in that book, is instantly recognizable as what is called Trance-Logic. They deliberately mess with the g
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
On review, the title page for Losing The Moon does list a copyright for 1998, it probably was not put into the main database. The book Losing The Moon is quite unreadable for the unindocrinated reader. But the book is terribly powerful for those who buy into it, too powerful to put out there. They have toned down the writing since then, and would use those more powerful methods verbally, onl
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
Nothing seems to come up for the Nog's Quest book by Byron Katie and Linda Rosenblit. But there is a book from 1969, called Nog, by Rudy Wurlitzer. Check out the reviews... - "The notion of a character who invents/chooses his "memories". - "Reading "Nog" is a little like living in the mind of Zen monk strung out on drugs." Wonder where they got t
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12 years ago
The Anticult
If anyone wondered how they were able to keep the book, A Cry In the Desert by Christin Lore Weber off the shelf, have a look at the copyright. Copyrights in the US can be searched here. you can see that Byron Kathleen Rolle is also the copyright claimant for that book. Wow, it must be hard to be humble, when you get a writer to co-write a book about you, based on her previous concept Womanc
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12 years ago
The Anticult
here is a wonderful bedtime Story for the kiddies... Once upon a time, there was a story, that after Stephen Mitchell entered the scene, and they decided that A Cry In The Desert and Losing The Moon would not be reprinted, and that "someone" once stayed up for 18 hrs, ripping up by hand every last copy of those damn dirty books. You see, as speculated earlier in this thread, its o
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12 years ago
The Anticult
thanks for the updates, very interesting as usual with this subject. as far as Christin Lore Weber, it seems she's had some personal difficulties in recent years, with her husband passing away from cancer, which she has written about. But as far as her other books, they seem to be all in the VERY mystical christianity area. But the lack of Christin even appearing to ever mention the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
12 years ago
The Anticult
That sentence says The Work is UNDERTAKEN AT YOUR OWN RISK, and The Work is not for mental health or medical conditions. That would actually be comical, if it were not reality. Anyone who has read the BK books, and the suppressed BK books like "A Cry In The Desert" and "Losing The Moon" know those books are full front to back of "stories" of people's cance
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
yeah, Carol Skolnick is a real trickster, probably learned a lot of stuff from her past cult experience, and then from Katie herself. That is a double-trick. The first trick is Katie trying to lure people in with confusing statements, that is used in hypnosis to create confusion before a Suggestion. Then Carol Skolnick promotes the statement, and uses questions to lure people in. One can
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13 years ago
The Anticult
Its interesting how the main Byron Katie PR people, (who are generally doing The Work to pay The Mortgage) all have very similar tactics. They must be trained in these tactics as they get further into the world of Byron Katie. One of the main tactics they use, is to minimize and deflect from what Byron Katie says. They try to whitewash it. Its very clear in many areas that Byron Katie literall
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
beware of Byron Katie promoters, (who of course say they are NOT BK promoters), who say things like... "everything needed to do The Work is given away for free". That is the same when Byron Katie, and others say, "The Work is freely given". Notice how BK's wording is much more tricky... And notice how those who promote BK will brazenly lie to promote their prod
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
hey that's a great point. Carl Sagan called that a Tolerance for Ambiguity. wikipedia even has a small entry for that. Its the simple ability to be humble, and admit we don't have all the answers in the universe, and don't know everything. Byron Katie thinks she can explain the entire universe, and she can't. She is completely ignorant of healthy psychology, and just
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
Its only a matter of time before some articles come out exploring and criticizing Tolle and Oprah, and the rest of it. Its just that the media is so degraded these days, just recycling celebrity news to cut costs. But even with criticism, they will still make their money selling fake-enlightenment illusions to the mass public. Irony upon irony. Also, an above post reminded me of the axiom th
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
The above post about Losing The Moon is very interesting. They would be very very worried at BKI if that book Losing The Moon, got into the hands of a journalist in Germany. That could be front page news, or even possibly block a person from entering the country. Is it a type of Holocaust Denial to say the Nazi atrocities were the work of some type of bizarre "loving" God? That is
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
13 years ago
The Anticult
ALSO: This is where Stephen Mitchell seems to come in. Before him, Katie's books like Losing The Moon, could get her into trouble, for all the serious claims she was making. This is why they seem to have shredded all those books in their basement. But the way Stephen Mitchell writes and edits those books now, they are done with a FINE-TOOTH COMB. They very carefully massage any claim
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