Yes, the Byron Katie company did change their claims one one of their webpages. But the same outrageous, and possibly illegal claims are still being made on other webpages. - Eliminate DEPRESSION - Eliminate stress - eventually never get angry? __________________________________________ Eliminate stress: Live without anxiety or fear Reduce anger: Get angry less often and less intense
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YG, you have an interesting insider perspective on this, thx for sharing your info. I think everyone has their own unique vulnerabilities...some for "Love" others for money and power, and the LGAT New Wage Gurus exploit that. As has been mentioned, Byron Katie is in the business of selling the IDEA of eliminating suffering. Byron Katie knows that the human condition has a lot of
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of course it goes without saying that there are many lower level Byron Katie "facilitator" people who do believe that what they are doing "helps". Some of them would join the Katie Hotline to "help" people. But in reality those people can be the most dangerous! Why? Because they don't know what they don't know. They are completely out of it. They can mes
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Anyone who has studied NLP can instantly see that Byron Katie is doing a lot of NLP and hypnotic techniques, in her own style. But what will blow your mind if you look into her, is that she is one of the most deceptive liars ever to come out of the NLP field, and that is saying a lot. Byron Katie denies knowing anything about NLP, and says she became Enlightened by magic one-day in a half-way h
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This is in reference to the CD set, “Your Inner Awakening: The Work of Byron Katie: Four Questions That Will Transform Your Life” by Byron Katie. This is initially a much more mainstream, gentle, and seductive program for the widest possible audience. This is Katie at her most seductive. Her voice-tone is very different than her other audio program, it is much softer, slower, and it sounds a
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This is in reference to the CD set, “Your Inner Awakening: The Work of Byron Katie: Four Questions That Will Transform Your Life” by Byron Katie. This is initially a much more mainstream, gentle, and seductive program for the widest possible audience. This is Katie at her most seductive. Her voice-tone is very different than her other audio program, it is much softer, slower, and it sounds a
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Going through the book version of "A Thousand Names for Joy" by Byron Katie and Stephen Mitchell. The very last page of the book is full of embedded linguistic unconscious and conscious COMMANDS, which look like a normal text. But they are written as strong commands to the Unconscious, they are literally post-hypnotic suggestions, and they outline the basic PROCESS of Grooming Katie
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Cognitive therapy has shown very clearly, that too much self-blame, creates too much guilt. It has also proven for decades, that too much self-blame and self-downing creates and magnifies depression. So with the fraud of Byron Katies The Work, no matter what happens, you take 100% self-blame, and direct it all back at yourself. Guess what? That is going to literally send you into a deeper
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I forgot to mention a couple of things from the book,"Loving What Is" by Byron Katie. She also does some diabolical "preframes" about her alleged "transcripts". Byron Katie says some parts of her in the transcripts might appear... COLD, UNCARING, UNLOVING and UNKIND, and she tells you to ignore that, its for their own good. See what she is doing there? Sh
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Going through the book, Loving What Is: Four Questions That Can Change Your Life, by Byron Katie (Author), Stephen Mitchell (Author) Its very unfortunate people seem to be quite easily taken in by systems like this. The book begins with Stephen Mitchell repeating the "Story" from 1986. Why is Mitchell telling this Story? Was he there? Can he verify what happened? Why are no fact
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Hopefully Steven Sashen, or any other of the people who promote and sell The (alleged) Work, will be able to accept the spirit of Steven's $100 Challenge, and using his own evidence procedure, come up with some evidence for the extreme and very serious Claims being made for The Work by Byron Katie. If their claims are accurate, then it should be on the cover of every medical journal in the
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I just want to drop one small Knowledge-Bomb into this to balance things out a bit. It seems that everything about this is extremely negative, and it is, its important to look at the facts. BUT, negation won't get us anywhere by itself. There are countless wonderful things to explore, that are legit. For example, saw a documentary the other week about some contemporary artists...that is
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Steven Sashen was questioned a bit on the Byron Katie affair so far, so lets give the guy a nice thumbs-up when he makes a good blog posting at the Anti-Guru Blog. "Develop a New Habit? Give me 21 days, and I’ll give you… three weeks" And he even offers a $100 reward! Good stuff! Steven Sashen is talking some good stuff about fish and flies, the Emoto water crystals scam, an
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A part of it is certainly Marketing...that is her market. Mostly women, but people who have been truly hurt in life, and are feeling a lot of terrible pain right now, divorce, depression... Pain is the motivator to seek help... So the marketing is part of it. Pain = Profits. But something does not sit right. Some other LGAT's I have studied do have "empowerment" at the core
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What is The Work? It seems to change daily? Why? Where are the explanations? Does it need to be immediately reported the psychological authorities in California? There were detailed and what appeared like extreme psychological and even medical CLAIMS being made on "What Is The Work" website of Byron Katie. But sometime after Feb 23, 2008 they were DELETED from their webpage, and
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What is The Work? It seems to change daily? Why? Where are the explanations? Does it need to be immediately reported the psychological authorities in California? There were detailed and what appeared like extreme psychological and even medical CLAIMS being made on "What Is The Work" website of Byron Katie. But sometime after Feb 23, 2008 they were DELETED from their webpage, and
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Quotehelpme2times QuoteThe Work is a simple yet powerful process of inquiry that teaches you to identify and question the stressful thoughts that cause all the suffering in the world. It's a way to understand what's hurting you, a way to end all your stress and suffering. So quess what? I just checked the web page where it said the above, and now it's gone! They're trying to c
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QuoteZentienthttp://boards.crimelibrary.com/archive/index.php/t-280572.html Check out the post by serendipitous1, 2/23/07 4:56. One of Katie's followers may have committed murder. There is not much out there about this. Some of you who are more adept than me with Internet searches may be able to find out more. According to the reports, Rochelle Laudenslager was a facilitator for T
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Byron Katie Turnaround House. Question: how can that even be legal? Does she have the credentials for in-patient therapy? Is she a psychiatrist, with specialized training? She is saying by her symptom list, if you have CLINICAL DEPRESSION, give me $20,000. They are going to treat SUICIDE in that House? What if the person gets out and kills themselves, who is responsible for that? She s
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Our local Byron Katie promoter's comments about 'science' are totally false. One does wonder if that disinformation come right from Byron Katie herself? But the only thing our Byron Katie promoter said about the world of the New Age Teachers that I agree with was this... _________________________ 1. Keep the money you have. 2. Take others' away. ___________________
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