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4 years ago
Bodhi68
Dear Ananas This thread was opened with the question whether Mooji was a cult. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mooji a cult? Posted by: happytown () Date: March 24, 2017 05:45AM Hi does anyone have any information about Mooji? There are few things on here but nothing recent. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
Two pages of long, rambling incoherent posts (again)? Time to look a couple of pages back! What needs to be buried so you won't see it?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
The Mooji squad all seem to argue the same line: "That's not been my experience so it's definitely not true because GOD". Here's some choice quotes, some more considered than others: Omkara wrote: "He doesn't want ANYTHING FROM ANYBODY. He is pure love, pure truth, and this world is so lucky to have such a being of his caliber in this age. Also, the people
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
On the topic of casually-implied-lineage -that-can-be-denied-as-unimportant-when-necessary: This lithuanian interview is about a mooji-endorsed spiritual teacher who calls himself Ajibaba - "Daddy Aji". Real name John.  Endorsed means that he is using Mooji's name to bottom feed the satsang crowd. The same is true with another teacher called Nitya from Poland. Most of the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
clearvision
happytown wrote : "Papaji also set himself up without any sense of being legitimised." Yes! A big part of this picture that people seem to miss is that Papaji is a highly questionably "guru". He made a big fuss out of meeting Ramana Maharshi briefly... (drive-by enlightenment!) Those that study Ramana know that he authorized no-one to teach self-inquiry, and was adamant
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5 years ago
Whtm
Eventually I caught on and was on my guard I still fell for it. I wonder if once you become accustomed to trance states it becomes easier to become hypnotized again. Also, with amnesia you could be hypnotized and not even know it. There was the case of that Ohio lawyer who was hypnotizing and sexually assualting some of his clients for years without their knowledge :(. Sahara71 Wrote: ---
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
corboy
I advise a bit of caution. Many trance operators lose their power over us once we learn about the commonly used techniques of hypnosis. However, I encountered one person who still affected me even after I learned that he was a skilled trance technician. I will tell that story later. On this page, Sahara71 wrote: QuoteAlonzo and Happytown, I watched the staring eyes video of Shri Moo
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
i yam what i yam
happytown Wrote: > > Its much funnier if you Google "porn jazz" and > play that music in the background while you watch > it. I'm laughing like the Laughing Buddha watching this mashup: I call it The Darshan of Chef!
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
Yes, the idea that it can unground you reminds me of how other spiritual groups say you shouldn't read certain spiritual texts because it can make you sick. Or how when you're with the guru, thinking is impossible because the ashram's energy level is just so 'potent' (cue porn jazz). And of course the classic mooji gambit designed to rush you: "don't miss you
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Sahara71
Alonzo and Happytown, I watched the staring eyes video of Shri Moojijiji Baba Poo, and I survived unharmed! I think that once you know the methods and aims of trance material such as this, it doesn't effect you anymore? I just thought that Moo looked silly- his eyes were not appealing at all and the whole thing seemed pointless and boring. I don't know if other people have th
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
alonzo Wrote: > > My advise is to not watch a video such as this. > It can be very ungrounding to your awareness and > is more harmful than most realize. It shows very clearly what Corboy was saying about creating a sense of false intimacy. Its much funnier if you Google "porn jazz" and play that music in the background while you watch it.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
alonzo
happytown Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Try watching this seven minutes of deep eye > contact with Moojijiji after Braco. > > This version is a little bit more candlelit > dinner. Good luck reediting this with some sultry > saxophone, the copyright team will get you: > > My advise is to not watch a video such as this. It
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
Try watching this seven minutes of deep eye contact with Moojijiji after Braco. This version is a little bit more candlelit dinner. Good luck reediting this with some sultry saxophone, the copyright team will get you:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
Interesting document here. Margaret singer's "conditions for mind control"
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Horowitz
Some native cultures or tribes have employed different practices or techniques to induce a trance to get one out of the mind and have some deeper experience of Self. But it’s truth it should not be too long and prolonged, one needs a curtain time to process and integrate it. Posted by Happytown: “…Psychiatrist John Clark has proposed that cult brainwashing involves repeated inductions of trance-
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
From 'The Manipulation of Spiritual Experience: Unethical Hypnosis in Destructive Cults' by Linda Dubrow-Marshall, Ph.D. and Steve K. Eichel, Ph.D., ABPP "Some theories explain sudden cult conversions in terms of the social pressures exerted when a recruit is subjected to total environmental (milieu) control, while others single out the control of information flow as being the
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
Double binds in zen (koans) supposedly serve to quieten the psychological mind and get in touch with midichlorians. But it's not magic, or that rare, and it is easily abused. "You blame yourself for feeling confused, frustrated, and conflicted. You tell yourself you must be doing something wrong. You are not following the “system” correctly enough. You have too much ego (too much
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
"As seitas são, assim, sociedades religiosas lideradas por um individuo carismático que, ao invés de fazer a ponte entre o Divino e o homem, coloca-se no centro da religião, passando a ser ele o pai de toda a comunidade, numa atitude de falso paternalismo. Um líder que promove a desigualdade entre membros, colocando-se no topo de uma hierarquia elitista. Um líder que vai juntando súbditos, l
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
How to recognize a cult leader, and lots of other info in spanish
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
i yam what i yam
Thanks for the link, Happytown. Here's the translation:
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
This article, by a zmar participant it seems, asks the question: is mooji the next osho? It raises two interesting points: 1. Yup 2. What's dutch for clickbait?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
Constantin wrote: "politics and power games within the Ashram". As is the case in any organization. But this does not gel with the image of the ashram. It would be normal for a business to hide its inner bullshit from CUSTOMERS. But when all your labor is for free, the line between customers and staff has to be blurred. Because why are you just giving free labor to a to
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
corboy
What is created by the controlling lover, the totalitarian leader? A garden of instant bliss. A garden of instant bliss in which slow poison of fear taints every fruit, every blossom, every brook and fountain. People rave about it. There are enticing videos online. People at your meditation groups, yoga classes talk about it. What about harm reviews? They're unfindable online
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
"Shame is the currency of cults and their leaders. The human potential for shame, to feel not good enough, bad or unworthy, is what cult leaders exploit. These traumatizing narcissists instill shame in their followers, using belittling, intimidation and humiliation, alternating these with displays of love and acceptance, in such a way as to convince the follower that their only hope for rede
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
Sahara71
Hi Horowitz, I agree with you in that some of the things Moo teaches are not bad in themselves. I think self-inquiry can be a useful tool. I also think the teachings of Advaita and Buddhism are very interesting and helpful. But it's the way Moo puts it all together that is wrong and misleading! He encourages people to flee from the real world into a type of 'self worship' tha
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
Ah ok, must be a different angry letter that year. Are you sure? This is what bringinthecat wrote: "I went to mooji's ashram in 2014 for a few months. I was doing seva there on their building projects, building a new temple. I had a good time and got a lot out of it. reading all this had brought back a memory that I feel I should share though, because it bothers me in retrospec
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
Oh I heard it was actually some fundamentalist Christians that were doing the death threating because he was acting like Jesus. Threats are of course unacceptable. Are you referring to bringinthecat's post, which mentions 2014, where Mooji read out a angry devotee's letter live on air and in front of hundreds of people? It can't be that because in early 2014 the security team w
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
"For example, let us say that a satsang teacher has chosen the spiritual nickname of Foo. Now Foo is the actual name. By adding “ji” to it, the name itself is made into Fooji. Everything then gets convoluted. Everyone referring to Mr. Foo is forced to call Mr. Foo, Fooji! This essentially means “Respected Foo.” The option to call Mr. Foo, simply Foo or Mr. Foo is thus taken off the table. T
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
5 years ago
happytown
A useful website called rationalwiki has this to say on theta healing: * Anyone worried about throwing out the baby with the bathwater while reading this site should ensure their baby is seated properly in an upright position, with seatbelt on, and spare diapers stored either in the overhead locker or below the bathtub in front of them. Sorry mixed metaphors there.
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