erner Erhard sponsored visits to the United States by two gurus: Baba Muktananda was recorded as visiting two Tibetan gurus, the XIV Karmapa and Chogyam Trungpa. We learned that Muktananda incorporated est methods into his Siddha Yoga intensives. Gurumayi, Muktananda's successor also uses this stuff. Former Muktananda disciples described this stuff in a listser
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Anyone remember the 1988 film, "A Fish Called Wanda"? Look it up. Otto West, a brute with pretensions to high culture, regards himself as Buddhist. He practices his Japanese sword exercises with Western classical music in the background -- and behaves outrageously. Wanda, the title character, reprimands Otto. In the midst of the verbal fireworks Wanda says something very impo
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All the previous descriptions of Werner Erhard's est/Forum/Landmark education look harsh, quite quite different from Chogyam Trungpa's Shambhala Training. Here is a description from someone who was formerly involved with a different group. But examine the methods described -- and the effects. QuoteAnonymousJanuary 20, 2015 at 6:28 PM Did you attend the workshop? What did y
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In the first couple of of years after Werner Erhard created est, he met the Karmapa in India -- and sponsored the Karmapa's first visit to the United States. During this visit to India, Werner Erhard also visited Swami Muktananda at Ganeshpuri and also helped M come to the United States. M incorporated Erhard's est methodology in the Siddha Yoga Intensives.(Corboy) . The Enc
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