This is a long read. The mind you save may be your own. This is an analysis by The Antcult of a script of another guru's "teaching story". Go through it and see if any of it matches what you've seen Moo say or do. Re: Byron Katie (the Work) - hypnotic language patterns, metaphors Posted by: The Anticult Date: March 11, 2008 06:48AM -----------------------
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erner Erhard sponsored visits to the United States by two gurus: Baba Muktananda was recorded as visiting two Tibetan gurus, the XIV Karmapa and Chogyam Trungpa. We learned that Muktananda incorporated est methods into his Siddha Yoga intensives. Gurumayi, Muktananda's successor also uses this stuff. Former Muktananda disciples described this stuff in a listser
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Traumatic Abuse in Cults: A Psychoanalytic Perspective Small excerpt QuoteIn this volume, Traumatic Narcissism: Relational Systems of Subjugation, Daniel Shaw presents a way of understanding the traumatic impact of narcissism as it is engendered developmentally, and as it is enacted relationally. Focusing on the dynamics of narcissism in interpersonal relations, Shaw describes the relati
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Concerning Naked Yoga...another venture offered this. Read here. Now, to the matter of secrecy in Muktananda and Gurumayi's Siddha Yoga and SYDA Yoga respectively. Sarah Caldwell, a former devotee of Siddha Yoga, wrote an article entitled The Heart of the Secret, well worth reading. QuoteThe seeds Baba (Muktananda) planted have not withered away, however. Today,nearly twenty years a
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For readers who are interested in the Werner Erhard 'tech' utilized by Muktananda and his successors in SY, you can read here exactly how it was done. Guy was heavily involved and had it on his conscience what he had done to people. gc4062 was one of our correspondants Manipulating the room set up..a key ingredient of how these large group formats operate. L
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Analysis by Former Devotee of Why Bliss Addiction Yoga Fails Us If Siddha Yoga taught me anything important, it’s that my own experience of life still matters and guides me. Yet, ironically, this is exactly where Siddha Yoga failed, and was bound to fail. I could never see this at the time—during my 20 year hiatus from real life, because I was too addicted to the panacea dour jour—the “perfect
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From our thread on Landmark (the current version of EST) and hypnosis. Persons who have been in SYDA/Siddha Yoga intensives, and thus exposed to Werner Erhard EST 'tech' incorporated by Erhards friend Muktananda into the Siddha Yoga Intensive should give close attention to these shares. See whether they apply to what you remember from the SY-Intensives. In the case of SY, music, i
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The after effect of install the guru in yourself exericises? From a recent post on the rituals of disenchantment thread Quote"The first big question I have is: how do you deal emotionally with the fact that Gurumayi has disappeared?" Hello folks of guru enchantment and disenchantment. Appreciate the blog and especially this question. I think it's a trully great self inquir
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Text of New York Post article Corboy note: It seems pretty clear from the testimony of many, not only Szabo and Shaw, but statements from many other persons, that some powerful experiences were elicited by tech used both by Muktananda and Gurumayi, and Stuart Resnick on his so called spiritual life page, did state the Muk was friends with Werner Erhard and had learned to use EST technology i
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Letters to Salon.com concerning Eat, (Pay to Pray)Love One person wrote QuoteWhich would mean that whatever big bang experience the author had was rooted in the ashram atmosphere (don't under-estimate the power of pretty pictures, smiling faces, exotic incense, and tinkly music), not an actual face-to-face with the guru. Did the EPL author actually meet GM in India? Or afterwar
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There has been a lot of information published about Gurumayi and the guru who groomed her, Muktananda Here is information from RR.com's archive The Siddha Yoga faithful are not nice in their methods. When New Yorker magazine published Liz Harris' article O Guru Guru, in the 1990s, When Marta Szabo arranged to give a reading of her memoir The Guru Looked good, exposing
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American Tantric Dissimulation--Hiding the Actual Source of Influence From the RR.com message board, I would like to add a further comment to Chapter 43 on Janaki's blog--Am I Whacky? To Janaki: Just wait. Sooner or later the inevitable guru apologist (s) will arrive and claim that its only our own craving minds that cause all the trouble. No, friend. The problem is not our crav
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There are some inaccurate and even dishonest statements being made in the RandomStu drive-by posting above. It reminds one of what can be read on some Siddha Yoga websites...of the subset of ex-SYDA people who basically say..."I got mine, so screw you". (the self-centeredness of some folks in the allleged spiritual community is stunning) That sounds like Werner Erhard. The fact tha
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also, lets always remember, dealing with any type of culty issue can be very emotional and stressful for everyone involved. And its very easy to misinterpret plain-text email, as there is no voice-tonality. (they teach you how to manipulate voice-tonality in NLP, and Byron Katie uses that technique very carefully). So from time to time some of the threads are going to get emotional and highly
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and after looking at the comments on the Marta Szabo blog above... ...surprise...Werner Erhard appears to have had his fingers in Siddya Yoga too, according to some comments below, by a "Dan Shaw" who if I am not mistaken, was bantering with Stuart Resnick years ago on Usenet about all this same stuff!! I am liking what I have read so far of "Dan Shaw"..someone being intelle
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· Here are some rough notes about the Byron Katie 5 CD set “A Thousand Names For Joy”. Its important to begin the process of analysis, which is ongoing. · This is not just a typical CD of strange stories and comments by some lady who sounds kinda “weird”. Not even close. This is some very dangerous material, for certain people with certain vulnerabilities. Some people would just switch it o
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