Are you a present disciple of Chris Butler that as soak all the stories lies and deceits .....without asking the deep questions of who is what from those who really know the dirty laundry of Bhaktivedanta or Chris Butler are you just beleiving like REST EASY and trying to find the ultimate truth in the old HARIBOLD special of Chris Butler and arguying sementics of this line or that line.
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And when Butler was keeping his little cult .....working side by side of ISKCON ...even when Bhaktivedanta was alive he would show up with stuff envelops of $10,000 .....that he as probably getting from his LSD makers disciples of Laguna beach and that would pacufy Bhaktivedanta ........and sort of permit him to keep his scams going freaking web of lies and deceits ..............THEN
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A member of this forum ask mewhy I lost faith in Bhaktivedanta ......here is one reason this link is about the marriage of Bali Mardan .BALI MARDAN WIFE This is the story of how Swami Bhaktivedanta was totally cheated by one of his close disciple BALI MARDAN an old friend mine who took sanyasi with me in Australia in 1971 Bhaktivedanta gave him permission to get merried to LI
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MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM SHOULD IMMEDIATLY WRITE MRS GINGER to corraborate my testimonial Dear Mrs Ginger ............kim.geiger@latimes.com In your article about TULSI Gabbard you give the impression that Tulsi Gabbard is HINDU because her mother is HINDU . THAT IS FALSE The reality is that TULSI and her father(who claim falsely to be Catholic ) and mother are disciples of CHRI
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`......Mike Gabbard is not a famaly member`... In he world of the Hare Krishna cult ....BUTLER included ... the spiritual master become a sort of surugate father ...When I became SWAMI at the age of 21 I was told to write my parents ...THAT FROM NOW ON THEY WHERE AS GOOD AS DEAD FOR ME ...my beloved parents where devastated and tought they would never see me again ...I completely dissap
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Dear rest easy .......if your guru is truthful and honest let him take my challenge and lets debate this whole JAGAT guru thing for a YOUTUBE VIDEO with some ex disciples present to file some important questions Who dare call himself PRABHUPAD (master at whose feet all other master bow down ).. immediatlly after the departure of Swami Bhaktivedanta ? Did he not let disciples eat his toe
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merrittj1993 has made a comment on "MIKE GABBARD" "TULSI GABBARD" BRAINWASH BY THE JAGAD GURU SIDDHASWARUPANANDA PARAMAHAMSA CULT ?: I think everything that you are saying is non-sense. No one forces you to chant. I chant I have a normal job, Cult means to worship something above everything else. Christians are in the cult of Christ. Buddhists are in the cult of Buddha.
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Dear Vera and others I am extremaly gratefull for this forum without it ....I would have never found the informations I was looking for when I found some banners of TULSI just 6 months ago on a visit to Hawaii. If people are new to this forum and looking for info ......they will have lots of pages to search I will when time permit more of the essential info under one of the video that as
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Where as Tulsi said that she is a disciple of \BUTLER ....on record you said VERA ....WHERE?
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Dear flashlight Its how you said this doctor story ....... it sound out there How do you get such informations ? Why would a doctor call the police ? Is there a clear view of the backyard from the ocean ? You talk about JG receiving an illegal medical procedure ......then accusing him of performing hypnosis illegally . Your not clear .......and if you are not clear you are addin
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Tulsi .....the jewel of the Gabbard famaly .....the pride of her guru But what about the other Gabbards kids I got a phone call from an old friend of the Gabbards and he told me that the son of MIKE and Carol call BHAKTI ....had been deeply involve in drugs and male prostitution.....how many trouble young man and women had their lives completely FUCK UP ....in order to get one star d
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FUNNY >>This guy will be swallow by a tidal wave....of money and cult power Congress will get its first "HINDU " PRO CHOICE ....PRO GAY ....and a possibly involve in the black magic ritual of eating toe nails of a meglomeniac Chris Butler .Just very funny
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That difference of opinion will continue, what can be done. Siddha Swarupananda Maharaja and his group, whenever they see me they give me money. So they are not against me. -AC Bhaktivedanta Swami in a letter to his disciple Bhurijana 11th Nov 1975 That is one of the unfortunate aspect of SWAMI B.....He took money indiscriminatly Butler may have taken hundreds of thousands of $$$ from his
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Tulasi Gabbard .....HINDU ?? As someone that as associated for years with Swami Bhaktivedanta....let me tell you. Tulasi is now PRO CHOICE ......Swamiji ...tought abortion was the worst of sins Tulasi is now for gay marriage ..............Swamiji ......was just horrified of the possibility of Gay marriage Tulasi the GI Jane .......Swamiji never told any disciples to go to war ...
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What is needed is a web site .....where the essential gross abuses of disciples of Mr Univers is describe (ex disciples testimonials) I am willing to pay some $$ to get it going if VERA CITY want to manage it (or someone trustwothy amd well spoken as she is ) This forum is great....... but it as become to big and confusing for someone looking for informations. What is needed is ex disc
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Dear forum Why I am participating in this forum and making anti BUTLER videos ....???. ITS TO INFORM ....potential new disciples of Butler of the sinister sides of the guy and maybee seed some doupts in the hearts of present followers of Mr Univers . Brain washing is taken place .....but if someone wants to beleive Butler is the intimate chum of blue GOD Krishna what can be done ? Bef
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Namaste About 5000 people have viewed my videos ...and exposing Mike Gabbard...as a virulent anti homosexual hypocrite Catholic will always stand and hopefully will let people know what this man and and the cult he belong to .Tulasi is now talking about being a vaisnava ...going to India ...serving the Indian community .......that was all absent only months ago ...WHERE WE AN INFLUENCE IN TH
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question to the furum? Is this the first time in the history of TULASI ....that she said publicly she is HINDU?? If it is ....I think its the pressure of this forum and all the postings in various papers in hawaii Does it make sense ? A Catholic father that never babtize his childrens ...who associated with fanatic fundamentalist churches(Jesus is the only way ) of hawaii to spread
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Thank you VERA I am serious ....I have the time and the money and a crew to film a great debate "JAGAD GURU " CHRIS BUTLER and HENRY JOLICOEUR an ordinary guy And the questions can come 50% from this forum and 50% from his disciples. No guns or machine guns permitted in the debate arena Everyone will wear face masks .....I will even wear rubber gloves to shake "JAG
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THE TOM CRUISE BILLION YEARS CONTRACT ITS THE SAME GIMMICK AS THE BUTLER >>>>EXEPT WITH BUTLER ITS an ETERNAL contract AS FOR TULSI BEING HINDU >>>>EATING THE NAIL CLIPPINGS OF MEGLOMENIAC CHRIS BUTLER IS NO MORE HINDU THAN I AM CHINESE> TO CALL THE BUTLER CULT HINDUISM IS AN INSULT TO THAT GREAT RELIGION HINDUISM IS VAST >>>>>BUTLER CU
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Invitation to JAGAD GURU to debate me any time anywhere ...but it must be video for YOUTUBE I will even wear a mask ...to protect Chris from my germs...... A simple french Canadian debating the guru of the Univers .....sound easy to win
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I have done my research on this other OLD JAGAD GURU ..just google his full name .....this one also claim to be an AVATAR a man is suing him for having rape his 2 daughters .......he was put in jail in Trinidad for a few weeks some more sexual scandals he is another sinister cult leader ....but he is not afraid to show his old face and arrange complicated colourful professional videos. Haw
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That Indian jagad guru is involve in many many sexual scandals....... Those videos of the Polish young people .........very sad ........if they really knew who Chris Butler is all about .... But brainwashing comes in all shape and forms VERA POST MESSAGES UNDER THOSE VIDEOS
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That Indian jagad guru is involve in many many sexual scandals....... Those videos of the Polish young people .........very sad ........if they really knew who Chris Butler is all about .... But brainwashing comes in all shape and forms
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You may have a point Vera city....you got me searching and It is the opinion of Rabbi Gershon Steinberg-Caudill that, like all other indigenous tribal societies of people, including Native American Indians, the Jewish people were not overly concerned about homosexuality as a sexual modality within the community, where-in two married or widowed men might come together in a loving, companionshi
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as posted on Honolulu star (please guys post on that newspapers) CHANGALANG seem to have done her homework when it come to TULSI GABBARD ...very good CHANGALANG I am particularly interested in TULSI race with MUFI ......Because the internet RICK ROSS forum as made a deep investigation of TULSI and MIKE Gabbard ...part of it can be found on YOUTUBE if you search their names on that web site YOU W
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VERA CITY.....you must understand that what most fundamentalist pastors beleive is not some esoteric TORA INTERPRETATION what they refer to is this ASV: (American Standard Version, 1901) "And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Darby: (J.N. Darby Translation, 1890
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AS POSTED ON A HONOLULU PAPER WEB SITE Love is love ...if one is fortunate to get a good partner and want to marry ....ITS A OK with millions of Americans.Recent studies shows that American mentality on gay rights as evolve greatly in the last 10 years . The super homophobic senator Mike Gabbard and other right wing religious BIGOTS like him organise and finance the past referendums on gay marr
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In the last few days I have received 7 negative anonymous messages ...mostly just a few words ...like FUCK YOU ...OR HOMOLOVER But this one is special ..if it is really from a disciple of JAGAD GURU that disciple is no SHAKESPEARE I don't live in America, nor in hawaii. I look up your videos . But I couldn't stop laughing how ignorant and miserable you are. It's ei
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