Very interesting. Certainly those professionals helping people get out of cults need to be totally upfront about their FEES. Just like a psychcologist or other mental health professional. You know the fees right up front. And those fees need to be in line with the standard for the field in the area. Or if the fees are inflated to $500 an hour because someone is a "celebrity" that
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Tad James is a flagrant NLP covert hypnosis-persuasion artist master manipulator, and moustache artiste, who has been doing this stuff for many years. He has also been doing the Huna swindle-dance for a very long time. www.ancienthuna.com Tad James is based in Hawaii, and one imagines that's why his son is running the same game. You can see it a family business. These guys can take
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Well, well well. As one peruses the reading list of the "mysterious Dr" Alex Benzer, it points to the usual suspects in hypnotic NLP persuasion, who's techniques can clearly be seen in the writing, top to bottom. Including Persuasion Engineering. These are the exact same persuasion techniques used by James Arthur Ray, and Byron Katie as well as Michael Beckwith, and many othe
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This is a special message for a few of the NLPers and weasels who are running around trying to deflect this advanced persuasion stuff away from NLP, and how James Arthur Ray uses parts of it. Those folks are lying right through their capped bleached teeth. Its all there in black and white. James Ray has directly mimicked and copied a number of people, almost like a robot, people like Tony
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Stever Robbins gets technical...about using Ericksonian language patterns in German, which has different grammatical structures. ___________________________________ QUOTE EXCERPT: "Much of early NLP was based on the work of Virginia Satir, a family therapist; Fritz Perls, founder of Gestalt therapy; Gregory Bateson, anthropologist; and Milton Erickson, hypnotist. It was Erickson'
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There are also links and posts by Stever Robbins on Steven Sashen's blog...of course. All in the family. These guys like to try to associate themselves with SHAM by Steve Salerno, as it makes them seem like critical thinkers. Carol Skolnick tried it too. And speaking of sneaky, the sneaky text from a website that was mentioned here has now been removed. Subtle. (website embedded ke
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just FYI, as mentioned, Jack Canfield, is the salesman of the Chicken Soup megafranchise, and he has dozens of businesses and "coaching" companies, which are basically MLM factories. This guy could sell ivory to elephants, old school superduper-salesman, with knowledge of every LGAT sales technique on the face of the earth. Jack Kornfield, is the founder of the Spirit Rock Center a
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There appears to be a few people named Michael Katz out there, so be aware of that. Michael Katz now appears to function as a literary agent on the west coast, and has been pumping for Stephen Mitchell for a very long time. It appears that Michael Katz is also the AGENT to Jack Kornfield. But the (Byron Katie) Michael Katz has been involved in all of these techniques and methods, since the
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ok, Game-Over, Checkmate. (more links to come) Those who have read this thread, will notice that it clearly shows that part of what Byron Katie is doing is an abusive form of Ericksonian hypnotherapy. That is, Erickonian conversational hypnosis, coming from Dr. Milton Erickson. Also, there are many links and connections with NLP and its techniques. The founders of NLP, Richard Bande
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by the way, the Stever Robbins connection to Byron Katie cannot be overstated. Anyone trained in NLP instantly sees what Byron Katie is doing on a metalevel to people, with language and images and stories. (its NOT about the BK worksheets, which are really just a distraction, that is lesson one. She just put that stuff in there to occupy people's conscious minds, that is a very common te
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as far as I know he didn't write any books, per se. He wrote a ton of academic papers, which are contained in various places, mostly in a series of books by Ernest Rossi. Try this book, its very accessible. My Voice Will Go With You (The Teaching Tales of Milton H.Erickscon) by Sidney Rosen. or.. TRANCE-formations by Richard Bandler and John Grinder. Try a general word search at
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I forgot to mention a couple of things from the book,"Loving What Is" by Byron Katie. She also does some diabolical "preframes" about her alleged "transcripts". Byron Katie says some parts of her in the transcripts might appear... COLD, UNCARING, UNLOVING and UNKIND, and she tells you to ignore that, its for their own good. See what she is doing there? Sh
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Going through the book, Loving What Is: Four Questions That Can Change Your Life, by Byron Katie (Author), Stephen Mitchell (Author) Its very unfortunate people seem to be quite easily taken in by systems like this. The book begins with Stephen Mitchell repeating the "Story" from 1986. Why is Mitchell telling this Story? Was he there? Can he verify what happened? Why are no fact
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The complexity and subtlety of this is why people need to do some serious study of these Advanced forms of Persuasion that are being used these days. It all started when the NLP guys studied Milton Erickson, and wrote all those books, and it went from there. Now they have fused it with Social Influence, Social Engineering, and advanced Sales techniques, and many other things. Byron Katie seems t
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Hey HJ, I don't think people are calling Tony Robbins "evil", but just stating the fact that he is extremely deceptive, manipulative, and probably has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and perhaps Bipolar, and people with NPD can cause a lot of damage in other people, as they are only concerned with themselves. When you saw people looking at Tony Robbins like he was a "god&
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http://www.hidden-wealth-keys.com/images/tad-margo-sml2.jpg Quotehttp://www.inspiritive.com.au/statement_johngrinder.htm Statement from Dr. John Grinder regarding the namejacking of www.JohnGrinder.com by the Tad James Organization October 2000 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I wish to bring to the attention of the NLP community a s
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