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15 years ago
xythos
Thank you corboy & I agree with what you say (surprise!). However, as I have mentioned in my previous post Quoteother where it would be the worst possible time to 'tap' into this because it further destabilises an already fragile state of beingness (be that spiritual, emotional, psychological, mental or physical). Yes, it is very powerful stuff, which is why I mentioned the ab
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15 years ago
corboy
Dear Xythos, what you say about ayahuasca is scary. A rather fragile friend said she wanted to go to Peru and do it and I did some background research and was alarmed. If my sources are accurate, ayahuasca is powerful stuff. 1) It interacts with most and perhaps all antidepressants and psychotropic drugs because one of the herbs used in the ayahuasca preparation is, pharmacologically a Mon
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15 years ago
xythos
QuoteTry 'shamanic' and shaman and native american in the search slot and see what you get. Others have posted here on this subject Thank you corboy. Actually (and, apologies if I slightly digress off the topic for a minute), the very reason I brought this up is that I have always felt quite strongly that it is about right mind, right (genuine) intention, attitude as well as prepa
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15 years ago
zeuszor
Thanks Jack. It would take a lotta beer to make it happen... Here is a photo of the cauldron of ayahuasca that is cooking in my backyard at this very moment. (JUST KIDDING hehehehehehehe) I like to drink some, dress up like Jeremy Kyle, and then go to my living room/fantasy TV studio and just yell at my Cardboard Dave and Cardboard Cherry for hours on end.
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15 years ago
zeuszor
I don't talk to my Mossberg like Mal with his weapon, but I'll tell you what: I have been up all night and day. My living room is decorated up like the set of the Jeremy Kyle Show, and a pretty good reproduction of the set it is, too. I am dressed like JK and have life-sized cardboard standups of DM and his consort here. All night long I have been drinking ayahuasca from a gallon jug
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16 years ago
veronicanoodle
On a forum such as this, which seeks truth and provides advice to others, it is important to correct misinformation (or disinformation) so that the assessments offered here are not just gossip or questionable in their motive. For that reason, maybe I can clear up this thread with some genuine and firsthand experience of Darkness Visible. I have been a student of Ross Heaven's for some
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
old_waxx
:shock: I feel that this forum should be used to be more informed about cults, but you guys give recipes of hallucinogenic mixtures... as if it were a serious spiritual experience... It's like: "take LSD and experience God..."... right, no?
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17 years ago
S_Byers666
Branches of Santo Daime are mainly in Brazil but there are many smaller groups throughout the world. Unfortunately due to the legal situation in many countries especially regarding DMT - including in the UK - the scene is very underground. But if you ask around - send emails to varoius tour orgs or to suppliers - you will find out who knows what's going on. Good luck.
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17 years ago
S_Byers666
17 years ago
S_Byers666
I belive that the 'tea' is a sacrament - just as alcoholic wine is the sacrament in the COE / Catholic cults. The vine from which the 'tea' is made is thought to be the 'lost' connection between the human race and the Great Spirit (the all pervading Cosmic Consciousness). I believe that Santo Daime refer to the vine as the Queen of the Forest. Whilst the religion is
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
zeuszor
So, in Santo Daime do they worship the tea like it's some kind of eucharist? Or is it regarded as more of a key to a cosmic doorway? What exactly is the status of the drink in Santo Daime, UDV, etc.? Holy Communion or key to the Encyclopedia Galactica?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
Acid Reindeer
and I just registered for that forum yesterday, though not as Acid Reindeer. so maybe we will "see" each other there.
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17 years ago
S_Byers666
QuoteAcid ReindeerQuoteS_Byers666 www.ayahuayra.org at this site they promise a cure for HIV, among other diseases. maybe they can, for I know, but I just thought that I would make note of that. Thank you that alert. This org. has been removed from my list. The demand for this experience is increasing and I guess that the Amazonian Indians are also cashing in on those desperate enough to hope
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
zelig
Quoteinitiate Stupid gringos! I doubt the sanity of anyone promoting such a complicated, ritualistic, and potentially dangerous pharmeceutical excursion. You are better off riding "It's a Small World" at Disneyland. Now there is a wormhole to other universes without the hurl! 8)
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17 years ago
Acid Reindeer
QuoteS_Byers666 www.ayahuayra.org at this site they promise a cure for HIV, among other diseases. maybe they can, for I know, but I just thought that I would make note of that.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
Acid Reindeer
kath, I take your point. for the very reason that you mentioned, I would hesitate to go to local christian ayahuasca ceremonies because I have a hard time mentally eye rolling whenever the topic of god, say, would come up. I would most definitely observe, though, if I had the chance in my area. as to the matter of professional druganauts coming onto such churches to try something they hadn&
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17 years ago
kath
QuotezeuszorQuotekath Do you think that aya and plant spirits like it can be used to achieve authentic spiritual/mystical states and that there is any legitimacy with their use in a ceremonial/religious context? Maybe, but the people I knew who were going to this church were just druggies who used ever other drug going. For a drug to have ceremonial/religious significance I think a person
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17 years ago
Acid Reindeer
QuoteS_Byers666If any cult is involved it is western tourist organisations (mainly from the USA) cashing in on the increasing demand for aya tourism. (my emphasis...) semantic drift warning! please don't degrade the already fuzzy mean of the word cult.
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17 years ago
Acid Reindeer
S_Byers666, thank you for that most comphrehensive and informative list.
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
S_Byers666
Quotekath Do you think that aya and plant spirits like it can be used to achieve authentic spiritual/mystical states and that there is any legitimacy with their use in a ceremonial/religious context? Yes - I've been there, and did not suffer from insanity afterwards. But we were well supported by an experience ayahuascero. But the spiritual and religious context is importsnt, as is the
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17 years ago
zeuszor
QuotekathBrrrr. I've never been involved myself but I know people that have been. They were people who were into drugs, psychedelics and supposed psychedelic therapy anyway any excuse to take drugs, hence they went along to this, for the free trip. Not just dabblers, people who live for drugs/trips. Perhaps you could call it an addiction in a way, they were certainly stoners but also h
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
kath
QuoteS_Byers666Quotezelig FOLKS -- there is a good reason you HURL this stuff. You body has a higher wisdom and knows when shit is coming in that doesn't belong there!!!!!!!!! Perhaps you also need to post this warning to the forums at www.ayahuasca.com ? No doubt they would really be receptive to sensible advice.
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17 years ago
kath
Brrrr. I've never been involved myself but I know people that have been. They were people who were into drugs, psychedelics and supposed psychedelic therapy anyway any excuse to take drugs, hence they went along to this, for the free trip. Not just dabblers, people who live for drugs/trips. Perhaps you could call it an addiction in a way, they were certainly stoners but also had to tak
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
S_Byers666
Quotezelig FOLKS -- there is a good reason you HURL this stuff. You body has a higher wisdom and knows when shit is coming in that doesn't belong there!!!!!!!!! Perhaps you also need to post this warning to the forums at www.ayahuasca.com ?
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
zelig
And be prepared to say goodbye to your sanity, because ya never know who will have a psychotic break! For those of you who like to play psychic Russian Roulette! Are you people nuts!!???? There is a lot at stake here! You're gambling too much for too little. The cost/benefit just does not add up! What we humans do for a buzz or a fake spiritual experience!!!! FOLKS -- there is a
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
S_Byers666
From a leaflet handed out before a recent session. NEVER take ayahuasca alone. ALWAYS have at least one sitter. It WILL make you purge so be prepared for that. Do NOT leave the premises until the effect has fully worn off. ================== Ayahuasca Set 1) Mind set is important and the way I do it is preparation. I avoid alcohol and sex 3 days before and after a journey and eat a v
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17 years ago
S_Byers666
I have heard bad reports from the below: www.spiritgarden.co.uk www.vodoushaman.com www.the-awakening.net www.heartoftheinitiate.com www.theedgeofinfinity.com
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17 years ago
S_Byers666
I think that these organisations are OK: www.ayahuasca-healing.net www.santodaime.org www.daime.net/beija_tour.html yatra.yage.net/ www.daime.net/ www.wasiwaska.org/ www.ayahuasca-wasi.com www.ayahuayra.org www.yanapuma.com www.ayahuasca-shamanism.co.uk/index.html www.bluemorphotours.com/ www.biopark.org/sprtqu3.html barrioperu.terra.com.pe/takiwasi/
Forum: "Cults," Sects, and "New Religious Movements"
17 years ago
S_Byers666
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