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But can you tell me, why the American people dont try to reform their country while they are seeing it changine to a police state or a fascist country?! Why dont you say NO to your administration and of course they wont do to you like what they can do to us here! We now, had enough and say NO, even if the American support to our regime got stronger, we wont return to silence again!!

What about you who were raised in freedom of speech and law and order?! Bush is killing ur beloved in unfair war waged under many many whoopers and lies in Iraq and you dont want to stop him?!

We are trying to stop the maddness that is gripping the US. However, the US military-industrial complex is using sophisticated cultic mind control techniques to whip our people into a war frenzy and stopping critical thinking throughout large sectors of our population. Consider the following:
- Bush/Cheney stole 2 elections to gain and hold on to power (absolute power, similar to a cult)
- 9/11 has never been properly investigated. As such, many questions abound, such as why both Towers appear to have been brought down via controlled demolition. (lack of critical thinking, similar to a cult)
- Anyone who dares to question Bush/Cheney policies, 9/11, the Iraq War or spending on the military/industrial complex is termed a terrorist, unpatriotic, a non-American. (never question the leaders, similar to a cult)
- Iraq is consistently portrayed as a terroristic threat. It never has been and is currently not a threat to America. (always keep outside threats alive to keep people in fear, similar to a cult)
- Americans are being lied to and manipulated on a consistent basis (never tell the truth, similar to a cult)
- Anyone who is against the Iraq War is termed as supporting terrorism and not supporting our country (thought-stopping techniques, similar to a cult)

It is not easy to get the truth out; but with tools like the Web and RickRoss.com, they can't silence people completely.

Peace -
Matt

Bit late to enter this one - but please don't forget that no Islamic group ever claimed responsibilty for this. Not even Al-Queda.

Strange that

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We are trying to stop the maddness that is gripping the US. However, the US military-industrial complex is using sophisticated cultic mind control techniques to whip our people into a war frenzy and stopping critical thinking throughout large sectors of our population. Consider the following:
- Bush/Cheney stole 2 elections to gain and hold on to power (absolute power, similar to a cult)
- 9/11 has never been properly investigated. As such, many questions abound, such as why both Towers appear to have been brought down via controlled demolition. (lack of critical thinking, similar to a cult)
- Anyone who dares to question Bush/Cheney policies, 9/11, the Iraq War or spending on the military/industrial complex is termed a terrorist, unpatriotic, a non-American. (never question the leaders, similar to a cult)
- Iraq is consistently portrayed as a terroristic threat. It never has been and is currently not a threat to America. (always keep outside threats alive to keep people in fear, similar to a cult)
- Americans are being lied to and manipulated on a consistent basis (never tell the truth, similar to a cult)
- Anyone who is against the Iraq War is termed as supporting terrorism and not supporting our country (thought-stopping techniques, similar to a cult)

It is not easy to get the truth out; but with tools like the Web and RickRoss.com, they can't silence people completely.

Peace -
Matt

Well said, Matt - most people seem to be ignoring some incredibly obvious evidence regarding the 9-11 disaster and I suppose they are just not prepared to accept what seems to be a very ugly truth.

I have come to the conclusion that the so-called "Illuminati" are the ultimate mind-control cult and have hundreds of millions of people brainwashed and worse. They make the other cults as discussed on this forum seem relatively benign.

"Americans are being lied to and manipulated on a consistent basis" -- Exactly TRUE! The Television and Newspaper media are owned and 100% controlled by these so-called "Illuminati" -- They successfully manage to hide the truth about their murderous shenanigans and keep the people in the dark about their sinister plans.

what we have forming before our very eyes is a Nazi type dictatorship ~ and who knows what they are planning next? The 9-11 disaster enabled them to pass the "homeland security" bill and the "Patriot" act, and these are setting the stage for the Gestapo to be able to come and round up "dissenters" and lock them away in concentration camps, and of course these "dissenters" are innocent people who will be denied any justice (just as in the so-called holocaust of 1940s)... Sounds unbelievable? Yes. But the infrastructure is all in place, and unfortunately history does have a way of repeating itself.

"However, the US military-industrial complex is using sophisticated cultic mind control techniques to whip our people into a war frenzy and stopping critical thinking throughout large sectors of our population." This is exactly TRUE! Some knowledgeable people are also suggesting that the "secret government" is using microwave technology and ELF (extra low frequency) transmissions for sinister mind control experiments. Apparently the so-called new cell phone towers have been erected throughout the country for this purpose.

But there is hope. Apparently a product called "organite" (orgone energy) is capable of neutralizing these towers when placed within the vicinity.

The more of us who wake up to the reality of what is happening, the harder it will be for them to win ~ WAKE UP, PEOPLE! This is the most dangerous cult of them all!

I'm not up on my history. Does anyone know what the history of these Muslim nations has been? Were they relatively peaceful prior to the rise of Western Civilization? What were they doing...say....1000 years ago?

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I'm not up on my history. Does anyone know what the history of these Muslim nations has been? Were they relatively peaceful prior to the rise of Western Civilization? What were they doing...say....1000 years ago?

No, not peaceful at all. Islam was spread by the sword. It is not the fault of the West that they became violent. The Crusades were largely a defensive action against Islam's military takeover of formerly Christian states. Not that the West was perfect or that the Crusades were without horror by the European side. Muhammad himself was a warrior who participated in multiple massacres, which Muslims are generally proud of him for doing.

Unfortunately, due to the massive transfer of wealth resulting from the West's suicidal dependence on fossil fuels from the Mideast, the Saudis and others have spend millions attempting to re-write this history through American universities. The elite of those countries are caught on a contradiction. If they come out honestly and say "yes, Islam and the Koran have legitimized violence against non-believers", then they are in danger from the radicals who will see them as reformers. If they say "yes, Islam is superior and we will create a worldwide caliphate", then they will wake people up in the West who might then start to pursue intelligent policies towards weaning ourselves from oil. But it is far easier and more profitable to say two things to two different audiences: to the Islamic world "we shall destroy the infidels!", to the West, "Islam is a religion of peace and only the West creates wars!".


Bottom line on Islam: read the Koran! And the Hadith as well. It's that simple. Ignore those who tell you "oh, infidels could never understand, the Koran is only meant to be read in it's original Arabic form". Read it, understand it, everything will click into place...

For example, this quote, still considered valid by Muslims is from the Koran, direct from Muhammad, and is considered the outline for dealing with infidels to this day. Three choices: 1) convert to Islam 2) pay a tax to Muslims for being a non-Muslim 3) die.


9.29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

ISLAMIC CULTS BEING FRAMED?

Yes, Shakti, these things may be true, and it seems that the media has milked this fact, that Islam religion is a religion of war, etc., in order to hide the fact that it was NOT terrorist cults that have carried out some of the worst terrorist attacks on western soil...

There is an astounding amount of evidence that shows that it was NOT terrorist cults that took part in the major bombings which have killed innocent people in New York, London, and Madrid...

Yes, it requires a bit of homework, but all the evidence is there on Youtube... I just watched this one:

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If you do not have the patience to watch these video clips, then here are some of the key points that are raised:

How come emergency DRILLS were being held in those same railway stations on that same day??? (Chances are billions to one of this happening!)

How come the red double-decker bus was re-routed from its normal route by many policemen just before the explosion took place???

How come the metal from the explosion in the train was bent upwards - denoting that the bomb was placed UNDERNEATH the train carriage, instead of downwards if it was in the terrorist's backpack???

How come the security photo of the four terrorists entering the train station were OBVIOUS CUT & PASTE jobs??? (Yes, very poor cut and paste jobs as well)

How come the chief terrorist was working as an MI-6 agent??? In other words, they would have known about the attacks and stopped them, or they (MI-6) would have planned the attacks and been directly responsible for them???

And so on, and so on...

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Yes, it requires a bit of homework, but all the evidence is there on Youtube... I just watched this one:

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How come the chief terrorist was working as an MI-6 agent??? In other words, they would have known about the attacks and stopped them, or they (MI-6) would have planned the attacks and been directly responsible for them???

And so on, and so on...

This is typical of the wave of disinformation that has permeated the west since the 911 attacks. Similar unsupported theories were offered after the attacks in Madrid. Much of this is coming from groups associated with the Muslim Brotherhood or Nazi groups from the West who wish to use these attacks to blame Jews and Israel.

There is nothing to support these theories, and by actively promoting them one is acting as an accomplice to murder in helping the culprits to escape blame. 911 conspiracy theories have continued even after admissions by Bin Laden and AQ.

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There is nothing to support these theories....

Oh yeh?????

Personally I would listen to the evidence given by witnesses, such as the janitor in the basement of the WTC tower, and to the service workers who usually service the number 30 bus, before I would listen to the politicians and their TV version of events.

After all, politicians are known to be liars.... (like the weapons of mass destruction lie)

eh??

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shakti
There is nothing to support these theories....

Oh yeh?????

Personally I would listen to the evidence given by witnesses, such as the janitor in the basement of the WTC tower, and to the service workers who usually service the number 30 bus, before I would listen to the politicians and their TV version of events.

After all, politicians are known to be liars.... (like the weapons of mass destruction lie)

eh??

So you would ignore the NIST and their scientists? What, was there a government coverup and all of them are lying? Also, some of these eyewitnesses claim to "have heard explosions" above them. What the hell would you expect to hear in a collapsing building? Kitty farts?

Also, please explain why Bin Laden and crew have ADMITTED IT? All you truthers refuse to even face that basic fact.

Perhaps the most laughable canard of the troofers is their insistence that Larry "the Evil Jew" Silverstein ordered the collapse of WTC 7 to collect insurance money. "We have him on tape!" Yes, as he said "pull it" to the rescue team organizers. What, did you think he is going to order up this nefarious plot, then ADMIT IT ON A TAPE? How stupid are you folks?

Ehem, excuse me...

the janitor in the basement of the WTC tower heard a very loud explosion BEFORE the first plane even hit the tower...

Why would he lie... he has nothing to gain. The politicians are lying because they have everything to lose if the majority can see through their lies.

Just faking an excuse to go to war. Yeh, the Operation Iraqi Liberation, or OIL for short.

Get, it? Operation Iraqi Liberation = OIL