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Osama bin Laden
Posted by: shakti ()
Date: April 10, 2006 09:07PM

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Possibly because al-Queda may not have done it? They never claimed responsibility - even though they have for everything else!

And what of the 6 hijackers who are alive and well?!

1. Factually wrong. Bin Laden has admitted it.
2. Ever heard of fake or stolen passports? AQ is part of an international terror and organized crime network, think they can't come up with some stuff like that?

Admittedly, our government has been less than honest about 911, but floating nonsensical conspiracy theories will not help anyone. If you really want to get into this stuff, look into things like Operation Green Quest and the collaboration between Karl Rove and Grover Norquist with the funders of Islamic terror. Much more fruitful territory...

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Osama bin Laden
Posted by: RU?ing ()
Date: April 11, 2006 02:28AM

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shakti
1. Factually wrong. Bin Laden has admitted it.

Then tell the FBI - they are not looking for him in regards to this:

[www.fbi.gov]

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shakti
2. Ever heard of fake or stolen passports? AQ is part of an international terror and organized crime network, think they can't come up with some stuff like that?

Of course, we've had the IRA for a lot longer than you've had 'troubles' as we used to call it. Do you believe the American Government cannot do this?

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shakti
Admittedly, our government has been less than honest about 911, but floating nonsensical conspiracy theories will not help anyone. If you really want to get into this stuff, look into things like Operation Green Quest and the collaboration between Karl Rove and Grover Norquist with the funders of Islamic terror. Much more fruitful territory...

George W B spun the largest conspiracy theory. But it sounds like we half agree.

Peace for the world x

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Osama bin Laden
Posted by: mjr40 ()
Date: April 15, 2006 10:13AM

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shakti
Admittedly, our government has been less than honest about 911, but floating nonsensical conspiracy theories will not help anyone.

It should be noted that the physics involved is hard science, not theoretical:
[www.archive.org]
Video that applies a basic physics equation to the collapse of the North Tower of the World Trade Center on 9/11. Concludes that high explosives were instrumental in the structural failure of the Tower.

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Osama bin Laden
Date: July 06, 2006 06:04PM

Anyway, the best possible way of dealing with a terrorist attack would be to mis-allocate blame and become more powerful in doing so. Who'd continue with terrorist attacks if that were the result?

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Osama bin Laden
Posted by: mjr40 ()
Date: July 25, 2006 09:34PM

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Anyway, the best possible way of dealing with a terrorist attack would be to mis-allocate blame and become more powerful in doing so. Who'd continue with terrorist attacks if that were the result?

Keep in mind, attacks from internal/external enemies can be staged by those looking for an excuse to increase their power. Recall the fire in the Reichstag in Germany; Hitler used it as an excuse to become an absolute dictator. It was later revealed to have been set by his own followers. Hence,
[www.archive.org]

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Osama bin Laden
Posted by: andychee ()
Date: August 28, 2006 07:34PM

What are you saying, that the president is a nazi? Thats nuts.
Hes a christian, and he wants this to be a good christian country.
Making up stuff won't change that ever.

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Osama bin Laden
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: August 28, 2006 09:06PM

anychee;

The United States is not a "Christian country."

It is a country for all religions, without a single religion that is either its state religion or that defines it.

It's called pluralism and freedom of religion.

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Osama bin Laden
Posted by: mjr40 ()
Date: August 31, 2006 01:34AM

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What are you saying, that the president is a nazi? Thats nuts. Hes a christian, and he wants this to be a good christian country.

No, I am saying that he is using similar manipulative cultic psychology techniques that the Nazis used, ie: mass hysteria, fear, and the scapegoating of religious/ethnic groups. A person can call themselves a Christian and still commit grave evil, ie: the KKK. As for Bush wanting this to be a Christian country you are correct. However, The American Republic was based on separation of church and state to avoid the sectarian religious conflicts so prevalent in other countries. He is using Christianity as a tool to wage war as he and Cheney see fit.

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Osama bin Laden
Posted by: zeldar ()
Date: September 02, 2006 03:32PM

If as you say that Bush and Cheney are using Christianity to wage war as they see fit, then where were they when the Cole was bombed, the two embassy's blown up, the first World Trade Center bombing? It seems to me that the attacks got bigger and bigger as time went on and no one was doing anything to try to stop them. I would rather we take a stand now and not wait for the next attack and maybe having 6000 people die in that one.

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Osama bin Laden
Posted by: mjr40 ()
Date: September 03, 2006 07:51AM

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I would rather we take a stand now and not wait for the next attack and maybe having 6000 people die in that one.

It would appear that you are assuming that the WTC collapsed as a result of the planes crashing into them. Please note that this assumption is not supported by the physics involved in the collapes. The physics clearly show that they were controlled demolitions. More information here:
[www.archive.org]
and
[video.google.com]

These types of events are known as "false-flag" terrorist attacks, that is, attacks that are fabricated so as to help induce cultic psychology on a population, including mass-hysteria, removal of civil liberties, scapegoating of internal minority groups, militarism, a culture of fear, control of information and suppression of dissenting views. Examples from history include the fire in the Reichstag in Germany which allowed Hitler to consolidate his power to become a dictator even though he never had the majority of the popular vote.

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