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Mind altering drugs in Therapy
Posted by: Etain ()
Date: July 10, 2007 04:09AM

Thank you all for your responses especially to you Hope and your most recent post. I am following up on recommended reading, links and websites. It has helped to have your support so far.

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Mind altering drugs in Therapy
Posted by: lapwing ()
Date: July 14, 2007 04:59PM

I remain and will continue to remain unconvinced regarding the widespread use of MDMA therapy except in the most specialised and unbiased supervision of highly qualified physicians as well as psychotherapists.

My reasons - and I have experience personally, and through other contacts - are that there are far too many 'control freaks' -f or want of a better phrase ( excellent qualifications do not exclude such people!) who set up such therapeutic centres with the sole aim of guiding their clients into situations in which the 'therapist' may use the 'needs' and 'illnesses' of the client for their own ends - i.e.'families' that exclude the natural family - and feed off the client's needs. Such therapists have been known to endorse 'free love" (for their own ends) and receive as gifts unspecified amounts of financial suppprt over and above advertised fees. False Memory Syndrome seems to be a speciality of such therapists.

Of course not all MDMA therapists can be classed with above - and there are plenty of 'therapists' who do not use MDMAs who do operate as above.

I write this as a warning having seen at first hand what can happen when a client of such therapy is so 'mind altered' that it has affected their lives families. and ambitions.

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Mind altering drugs in Therapy
Posted by: kath ()
Date: July 14, 2007 11:32PM

I have known someone who was very into 'psychadelic therapy' and the results were not good IMHO, and it does have potential for abuse if a therapist were to take at most only a small amount of the drug, then the 'client' is under the influence of the drug completely. Then it is could be easy for unethical 'therapists' to try it on sexually.

Personally I wouldn't be convinced of the medical benefits of these drugs really. The result are too unpredictable, and MDMA for instance is known to leave people at increased risk for depression.

But it's the risk of abuse by therapists who take clients on a full 'trip' that really worries me.

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Mind altering drugs in Therapy
Posted by: Etain ()
Date: July 17, 2007 03:11AM

Dear Lapwing and Kath, your experiences echo my own. Thank you for being braver than I.

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Mind altering drugs in Therapy
Posted by: lapwing ()
Date: July 17, 2007 04:12PM

Kath
The instance I know of - a very well known practice in Europe - does take ;clients' on trips and then feeds them LSD - appalling this is legal and even more appallingly this practice pulls in poor souls for UK, USA, and other parts of the world - they then have to return home with 'altered minds' which often means they cannot function socially, psychologically, sexually, away from 'the core family' they have been manipulated to rely upon.

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Mind altering drugs in Therapy
Posted by: lapwing ()
Date: July 18, 2007 02:52AM

Sorry - I meant to write the LSD 'trips' always administered with or followed by Ecstasy.

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Re: Mind altering drugs in Therapy
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: March 07, 2010 12:04AM

An article on Ayahuasca as reportedly used in France--

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