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a witless pawn of social engineering.

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Even the Mormons financially support each other through hard times.

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So how much help is the Mormon church now giving members and nonmembers?

Their lack of humanitarian aid is disgusting - especially for a so called church. The numbers below are from an official Mormon church publication. Notice how they use the sum of a 25 year span to make the number look significant.

It's been a long time since I posted here. With Mittens in the news, message boards routinely have people saying how the LDS church helps all its members in need and even those who are not members. Members' tithes are always well spent and the humanitarian outpouring from the church will save the world and end hunger and poverty as we know it. (The next best thing to golden plates.)

I had some very bad experiences with the LDS church and "helping" its members in need, so I really take objection to such statements. I know there are members who do & did receive help when needed. But I also knew that bishops can pick and choose who they help and can be very capricious and can make members beg and grovel before any help is forth coming. It was not the utopia the church likes the media to believe. Or is it?

Has the LDS church changed? Does it really help anyone in need that shows up at the church door? Does it now give full financial disclosure of the money it receives and what it is spent on?

Just so that this is clear - The Mormon church only gives out $6.73 in charitable aid per member per year.

Are you disgusted yet? How many thousand of dollars did most of us give in tithing and did so faithfully for years. Where did all this money go? Shopping malls. Resort hotels. Hunting preserves for the wealthy and for general authorities. etc.

Mormons should have their own occupy movement and quit paying tithing until the books are opened. The media should demand openness of a non-profit organization. Most for profit public corporations give more charitable aid per employee than this so called church.

As a reference, here is some info on the $3,000,000,000 (3 billion dollar) mall: [www.exmormon.org]

The cost of the mall (assuming now 14 million members) is ($3,000 million / 14 million members) = $214 per member. Compare that to the charitable aid. Is this a church or a corporation?

One ocassion I arrived at Church early,had to go to the kitchen to leave some dishes for someone,opened the door to see a family of four seated round a table eating tomato soup,I vaguely recognized them,I just said hi how are you and went out,discovered later they had turned up at the church door looking for help,benefit paymets had failed to arrive,which happens with great regularity here in scotland,what did TSSC give them,a tin of heinz tomato soup,AND they had to eat it in the building where all and sundry could see there humiliation,sooo gladdd to be out,simply crazy.

My neighbor, who passed away several years ago, was struggling to make ends meet. She was disabled and did not have any work that month. She went to her bishop to ask for help and was told the church had no money to help her. This conversation was near other members, so she said very loudly, "what happen to all the tithes I paid?" She was swiftly escort out of the building. I helped her get out of the church after that.

Tithing does NOT help people, that's what fast offerings are for. Tithing goes to build expense multi-million dollar temples and tv commercials. [exmormon.org]