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Ikeda ghandi King nonsense
I found this which may or may not be the edited version as they strung this out for a full day.
Yes, that's the one that used to make me go all teary eyed - it seems so lame now.
From the propaganda based GKI exhibit video:
"Toda... went to prison with his mentor Makaguchi, for their arden protest of Japan's Imperial war... Ikeda determined to spend the rest of his life devoted to realizing Toda's dream for world peace."
BULL COOKIES! IKEDA IS A FRAUD, NOT A HERO OF NON-VIOLENCE! His greatest accomplishment was single-mindedly devoting himself to becoming rich and powerful by building a religious cult with himself at the center.
FACT: SGI.cult not only refused to protest this country's bloodlust for revenge and violence, they actually supported the damn wars and warmongers!
The third and final straw that provided the motivation for me to leave the cult.org forever occurred in 2003 in response to SGI's pro-war attitude, behavior, and policies revealed during the outbreak of the illegal and immoral Iraqi invasion by the US gov. My naive acceptance in the carefully crafted illusion that Ikeda and the SGI.cult are against war was instantly shattered by the light of truth illuminating such unbelivable in-your-face hypocrisy.
The shameless con-artist Ikeda, the-would-be king-of-Japan, IMHO will never deserve any comparison or association to the truely great Ghandi and King - who actually put their lives on the line, sacrificing everything for their dreams of peace. Whereas the mafia-connected Ikeda has nothing to show/hide but unscrupulous billion$ of assets, a bunch of bought and paid for university degrees, a well-deserved ex-communication by his former church (sect), and an illegitimate and unconstitutional personally controlled "clean government" political party. The entirely misleading GKI exhibit is nothing more than a huge propaganda psy-op, designed to fool any unwary marks or potential slaves into (further) accepting a false god born from a religious/war cult heritage as their great and merciful "master".
Since I still believe in karma, I sometimes wonder what hellish suffering awaits the monsterous master (of power and money) in his future lifetimes. Two things for sure - Daisucku won't be here to enjoy his illgotten forture much longer (if he isn't already dead), and, he will never find his greedy egocentric fatass standing arm and arm with the humble and respectable figures of King and Gandi in any future existence.
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meh
A perfect description of almost everyone I've ever seen during gongyo (and myself as well, I'm sure). And, as someone noted on this mb somewhere, perfect preparation for receptivity to further indoctrination. Sancho is perfect for breaking the trance . . . a perfect ending for the programming session. Go ye forth and spread the good word, my friends. At times, it's the utter silliness of the whole thing, but then the sinister aspects creep back in. I think I need the silliness just to keep my head on straight - if I focused on just how evil and premeditated all of this is, I'm not sure what I'd do.
And I think, too, that while it's nice to poke fun at the Great Oz, it's also indicative of how powerful he was in our lives. Fallen despots are always ridiculed, in part because after years of having our tongues tied, we can speak freely. At the same time, when someone has had so much control over every aspect of our lives, we need to deflate him . . . cut him down to a manageable size.
Funny incident this morning - I had on the Animal Channel, and they had a show on of cats doing funny things (no judging, please). When they showed a chubby cat on a windowsill leaning back against the glass (picture an invisible reclining chair and remote control close at paw), one of the regular commentators cheerily said "You just know he's chanting nmrk, nmrk, nmrk."
They walk among us . . . even the Animal Channel isn't safe.
Me too. But here's the thing - we were told it was VITALLY important, essential, even (!) for the morning gongyo to be that long!Quote
Plus, back when I was in, gongyo was much, much longer. Especially morning gongyo, insanely loooooong (5 prayers and with the magic chant, easily over a 30 minute session / maybe 20 if you hustled it). In fact, that's why the cult org. officially shortened the prayer rituals after the excommunication (it was causing member fatigue and number bleed).
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Me too. But here's the thing - we were told it was VITALLY important, essential, even (!) for the morning gongyo to be that long!
So when they shortened it, most members felt relief, but a lot of members felt betrayed - WHY had we been told we had to do the whole long thing every morning, that to shorten it would be a "bad cause", and that there was such great benefit in making the commitment to do that long-ass prayer session every morning, if it could just be blithely shortened *just because*??
You can't have it both ways, morons.
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It's funny how these things can be forgotten so quickly. I remember also being told that the long gongyo was essential, and a sign of being committed to the practice. I also used to find it mind numbingly painful and never-ending - the wasted hours I will never get back!!
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Thinking back to 2003, I don't remember anything being said officially by SGI in the UK about the Iraq war. Whenever a member asked the leaders why the SGI weren't speaking out against the war the explanation came back that we shouldn't get involved in politics in case it alienated people that might be interested in practising (i.e. people in the British Army) and that this might go against Cousin Rufus. And then the inevitable mention of Ikeda's yearly Peace Proposal was cited, as if that made up for it all. Of course, this confused some members who asked why SGI had a political party in Japan (those members that knew about this). Never did get a good explanation for this one - just that 'they do things differently in Japan'.
Spartacus - would appreciate it if you could give some examples of what you remember about SGI's pro-war attitude in the USA as I'm sure a lot of people who practice now have no idea about this and simply believe all the GKI 'peace' type crap that is constantly regurgitated.
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Interesting to me that Linda Johnson is a death-penalty prosecutor - I've heard her try to justify that with her Buddhist practice . . . clever weasel-like contortions there. Even more interesting that very few people question it.
Being very new to the practice when the 5th anniversary of the war in Afghanistan/Iraq occurred, I was really shocked at the level of resistance I encountered when I naively suggested that we should participate as a group in the peace march that was taking place in ABQ. This is supposed to be a group that's all about world peace, right? I did get two other women to come out with me - they were the same age as I, and we all had a history of participating in different kinds of marches back in the day.
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The gross hypocrisy of the SGIcult made me feel both sick and angry!
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