Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by:
TaitenAndProud
()
Date: April 12, 2013 01:31PM
Wasn't that the outcome at Animal Farm as well (from George Orwell's book of that name)?Quote
There is no retirement age in the gakkai cult org., "the benefits of faith include perennial youth and eternal life."
Clover was an old stout mare now, stiff in the joints and with a tendency to rheumy eyes. She was two years past the retiring age, but in fact no animal had ever actually retired. The talk of setting aside a corner of the pasture for superannuated animals had long since been dropped. The farm was more prosperous now, and better organised: it had even been enlarged by two fields which had been bought from Mr. Pilkington. But the luxuries of which Snowball had once taught the animals to dream, the stalls with electric light and hot and cold water, and the three-day week, were no longer talked about. Napoleon had denounced such ideas as contrary to the spirit of Animalism. The truest happiness, he said, lay in working hard and living frugally.
Somehow it seemed as though the farm had grown richer without making the animals themselves any richer–except, of course, for the pigs (the rulers) and the dogs (their police force). But still, neither pigs nor dogs produced any food by their own labour; and there were very many of them, and their appetites were always good.
As for the others, their life, so far as they knew, was as it had always been. They were generally hungry, they slept on straw, they drank from the pool, they laboured in the fields; in winter they were troubled by the cold, and in summer by the flies. Sometimes the older ones among them racked their dim memories and tried to determine whether in the early days of the Rebellion, when Jones's expulsion was still recent, things had been better or worse than now. They could not remember. There was nothing with which they could compare their present lives: they had nothing to go upon except Squealer's lists of figures, which invariably demonstrated that everything was getting better and better. The animals found the problem insoluble; in any case, they had little time for speculating on such things now. Only old Benjamin professed to remember every detail of his long life and to know that things never had been, nor ever could be much better or much worse–hunger, hardship, and disappointment being, so he said, the unalterable law of life.
And yet the animals never gave up hope. More, they never lost, even for an instant, their sense of honour and privilege in being members of Animal Farm. They were still the only farm in the whole county–in all England!–owned and operated by animals. Not one of them, not even the youngest, not even the newcomers who had been brought from farms ten or twenty miles away, ever ceased to marvel at that. And when they heard the gun booming and saw the green flag fluttering at the masthead, their hearts swelled with imperishable pride, and the talk turned always towards the old heroic days, the expulsion of Jones, the writing of the Seven Commandments, the great battles in which the human invaders had been defeated. None of the old dreams had been abandoned. The Republic of the Animals which Major had foretold, when the green fields of England should be untrodden by human feet, was still believed in. Some day it was coming: it might not be soon, it might not be with in the lifetime of any animal now living, but still it was coming. Even the tune of Beasts of England was perhaps hummed secretly here and there: at any rate, it was a fact that every animal on the farm knew it, though no one would have dared to sing it aloud. It might be that their lives were hard and that not all of their hopes had been fulfilled; but they were conscious that they were not as other animals. If they went hungry, it was not from feeding tyrannical human beings; if they worked hard, at least they worked for themselves. No creature among them went upon two legs. No creature called any other creature "Master." All animals were equal.
Benjamin felt a nose nuzzling at his shoulder. He looked round. It was Clover. Her old eyes looked dimmer than ever. Without saying anything, she tugged gently at his mane and led him round to the end of the big barn, where the Seven Commandments were written. For a minute or two they stood gazing at the tatted wall with its white lettering.
"My sight is failing," she said finally. "Even when I was young I could not have read what was written there. But it appears to me that that wall looks different. Are the Seven Commandments the same as they used to be, Benjamin?"
For once Benjamin consented to break his rule, and he read out to her what was written on the wall. There was nothing there now except a single Commandment. It ran:
ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL
BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS
After that it did not seem strange when next day the pigs who were supervising the work of the farm all carried whips in their trotters.
A week later, in the afternoon, a number of dogcarts drove up to the farm. A deputation of neighbouring farmers had been invited to make a tour of inspection. They were shown all over the farm, and expressed great admiration for everything they saw, especially the windmill. The animals were weeding the turnip field. They worked diligently, hardly raising their faces from the ground, and not knowing whether to be more frightened of the pigs or of the human visitors.
Mr. Pilkington, of Foxwood, had stood up, his mug in his hand. In a moment, he said, he would ask the present company to drink a toast. But before doing so, there were a few words that he felt it incumbent upon him to say.
It was a source of great satisfaction to him, he said–and, he was sure, to all others present–to feel that a long period of mistrust and misunderstanding had now come to an end. There had been a time–not that he, or any of the present company, had shared such sentiments–but there had been a time when the respected proprietors of Animal Farm had been regarded, he would not say with hostility, but perhaps with a certain measure of misgiving, by their human neighbours. Unfortunate incidents had occurred, mistaken ideas had been current. It had been felt that the existence of a farm owned and operated by pigs was somehow abnormal and was liable to have an unsettling effect in the neighbourhood. Too many farmers had assumed, without due enquiry, that on such a farm a spirit of licence and indiscipline would prevail. They had been nervous about the effects upon their own animals, or even upon their human employees. But all such doubts were now dispelled. Today he and his friends had visited Animal Farm and inspected every inch of it with their own eyes, and what did they find? Not only the most up-to-date methods, but a discipline and an orderliness which should be an example to all farmers everywhere. He believed that he was right in saying that the lower animals on Animal Farm did more work and received less food than any animals in the county. Indeed, he and his fellow-visitors today had observed many features which they intended to introduce on their own farms immediately.
...
Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Now compare - can you tell these apart?
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[i.dailymail.co.uk]
Imagine father and son in the same picture - they don't seem to ever be photgraphed together:
[www.zoomedia.it]
[farm5.staticflickr.com]
Now, that young Daisaku Ikeda was a HOT ASIAN GUY ([d15mj6e6qmt1na.cloudfront.net]) but it appears poor ol' Hiromasa didn't inherit *any* of his daddy's youthful good looks. While Daisaku now looks like a bloated, constipated toad, Hiromasa looks rather like a young version of that dyspeptic toad.
Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by:
sleepy skunk
()
Date: April 13, 2013 10:39AM
Whoa, now that is something I never thought of. I've read the book but re-reading it in this context? Unbelievable. It looks to me like someone's been studying some of Orwell's novels with possibly Huxley thrown in there. No, not you T&P, not me, but you know who...Quote
TaitenAndProudWasn't that the outcome at Animal Farm as well (from George Orwell's book of that name)?Quote
There is no retirement age in the gakkai cult org., "the benefits of faith include perennial youth and eternal life."
Clover was an old stout mare now, stiff in the joints and with a tendency to rheumy eyes. She was two years past the retiring age, but in fact no animal had ever actually retired. The talk of setting aside a corner of the pasture for superannuated animals had long since been dropped. The farm was more prosperous now, and better organised: it had even been enlarged by two fields which had been bought from Mr. Pilkington. But the luxuries of which Snowball had once taught the animals to dream, the stalls with electric light and hot and cold water, and the three-day week, were no longer talked about. Napoleon had denounced such ideas as contrary to the spirit of Animalism. The truest happiness, he said, lay in working hard and living frugally.
Somehow it seemed as though the farm had grown richer without making the animals themselves any richer–except, of course, for the pigs (the rulers) and the dogs (their police force). But still, neither pigs nor dogs produced any food by their own labour; and there were very many of them, and their appetites were always good.
As for the others, their life, so far as they knew, was as it had always been. They were generally hungry, they slept on straw, they drank from the pool, they laboured in the fields; in winter they were troubled by the cold, and in summer by the flies. Sometimes the older ones among them racked their dim memories and tried to determine whether in the early days of the Rebellion, when Jones's expulsion was still recent, things had been better or worse than now. They could not remember. There was nothing with which they could compare their present lives: they had nothing to go upon except Squealer's lists of figures, which invariably demonstrated that everything was getting better and better. The animals found the problem insoluble; in any case, they had little time for speculating on such things now. Only old Benjamin professed to remember every detail of his long life and to know that things never had been, nor ever could be much better or much worse–hunger, hardship, and disappointment being, so he said, the unalterable law of life.
And yet the animals never gave up hope. More, they never lost, even for an instant, their sense of honour and privilege in being members of Animal Farm. They were still the only farm in the whole county–in all England!–owned and operated by animals. Not one of them, not even the youngest, not even the newcomers who had been brought from farms ten or twenty miles away, ever ceased to marvel at that. And when they heard the gun booming and saw the green flag fluttering at the masthead, their hearts swelled with imperishable pride, and the talk turned always towards the old heroic days, the expulsion of Jones, the writing of the Seven Commandments, the great battles in which the human invaders had been defeated. None of the old dreams had been abandoned. The Republic of the Animals which Major had foretold, when the green fields of England should be untrodden by human feet, was still believed in. Some day it was coming: it might not be soon, it might not be with in the lifetime of any animal now living, but still it was coming. Even the tune of Beasts of England was perhaps hummed secretly here and there: at any rate, it was a fact that every animal on the farm knew it, though no one would have dared to sing it aloud. It might be that their lives were hard and that not all of their hopes had been fulfilled; but they were conscious that they were not as other animals. If they went hungry, it was not from feeding tyrannical human beings; if they worked hard, at least they worked for themselves. No creature among them went upon two legs. No creature called any other creature "Master." All animals were equal.
Benjamin felt a nose nuzzling at his shoulder. He looked round. It was Clover. Her old eyes looked dimmer than ever. Without saying anything, she tugged gently at his mane and led him round to the end of the big barn, where the Seven Commandments were written. For a minute or two they stood gazing at the tatted wall with its white lettering.
"My sight is failing," she said finally. "Even when I was young I could not have read what was written there. But it appears to me that that wall looks different. Are the Seven Commandments the same as they used to be, Benjamin?"
For once Benjamin consented to break his rule, and he read out to her what was written on the wall. There was nothing there now except a single Commandment. It ran:
ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL
BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS
After that it did not seem strange when next day the pigs who were supervising the work of the farm all carried whips in their trotters.
A week later, in the afternoon, a number of dogcarts drove up to the farm. A deputation of neighbouring farmers had been invited to make a tour of inspection. They were shown all over the farm, and expressed great admiration for everything they saw, especially the windmill. The animals were weeding the turnip field. They worked diligently, hardly raising their faces from the ground, and not knowing whether to be more frightened of the pigs or of the human visitors.
Mr. Pilkington, of Foxwood, had stood up, his mug in his hand. In a moment, he said, he would ask the present company to drink a toast. But before doing so, there were a few words that he felt it incumbent upon him to say.
It was a source of great satisfaction to him, he said–and, he was sure, to all others present–to feel that a long period of mistrust and misunderstanding had now come to an end. There had been a time–not that he, or any of the present company, had shared such sentiments–but there had been a time when the respected proprietors of Animal Farm had been regarded, he would not say with hostility, but perhaps with a certain measure of misgiving, by their human neighbours. Unfortunate incidents had occurred, mistaken ideas had been current. It had been felt that the existence of a farm owned and operated by pigs was somehow abnormal and was liable to have an unsettling effect in the neighbourhood. Too many farmers had assumed, without due enquiry, that on such a farm a spirit of licence and indiscipline would prevail. They had been nervous about the effects upon their own animals, or even upon their human employees. But all such doubts were now dispelled. Today he and his friends had visited Animal Farm and inspected every inch of it with their own eyes, and what did they find? Not only the most up-to-date methods, but a discipline and an orderliness which should be an example to all farmers everywhere. He believed that he was right in saying that the lower animals on Animal Farm did more work and received less food than any animals in the county. Indeed, he and his fellow-visitors today had observed many features which they intended to introduce on their own farms immediately.
...
Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by:
Hitch
()
Date: April 13, 2013 02:15PM
They say that after a while, the little slave dog starts to look like its "Master" (or vice versa) -
Napoleon-Ikeda & Squealer-Elliot, perhaps?? (From "Animal Farm"). A 100% apt analogy. One could write a book discussing all of the Gakkai Cult Org.'s doublespeak, cult gobbledygook, alone.
Ikeda pseudo-buddhist cult propaganda piece [www.youtube.com], featuring Elliot and others. (Warning: Harsh Comment Alert) Illiterate war brides, join the gakkai cult branch in America for a sense of "community", a crutch to cope in their new, foreign and harsh world. Embracing superstition, ritual, magical thinking and clutching their cult master's "guidance", become inadvertent slaves to the cult org., converting, enslaving and manipulating others to do the same.
Nobody can tell me otherwise, because I've seen it all firsthand, with these so-called "pioneering" members. Kazue Elliot is at the very top of the list when it comes to intolerant, Jekyll & Hyde, manipulative and abusive behavior toward "members." The $oka Gakkai Cult Org. has zero to do with "world peace" and everything to do with becoming a slave to The Dear Leader, Ikeda-sama. That clip is the cult org. rewriting a fictional history for American's Cousin Rufus, nothing more.
Like I said, what a crock of shite!! Mix in several bags of sugar with a ton of bullsh** and serve it the members; they'll even gladly come up to the pot again for second refills of the kool-aid.
- Hitch
Napoleon-Ikeda & Squealer-Elliot, perhaps?? (From "Animal Farm"). A 100% apt analogy. One could write a book discussing all of the Gakkai Cult Org.'s doublespeak, cult gobbledygook, alone.
Ikeda pseudo-buddhist cult propaganda piece [www.youtube.com], featuring Elliot and others. (Warning: Harsh Comment Alert) Illiterate war brides, join the gakkai cult branch in America for a sense of "community", a crutch to cope in their new, foreign and harsh world. Embracing superstition, ritual, magical thinking and clutching their cult master's "guidance", become inadvertent slaves to the cult org., converting, enslaving and manipulating others to do the same.
Nobody can tell me otherwise, because I've seen it all firsthand, with these so-called "pioneering" members. Kazue Elliot is at the very top of the list when it comes to intolerant, Jekyll & Hyde, manipulative and abusive behavior toward "members." The $oka Gakkai Cult Org. has zero to do with "world peace" and everything to do with becoming a slave to The Dear Leader, Ikeda-sama. That clip is the cult org. rewriting a fictional history for American's Cousin Rufus, nothing more.
Like I said, what a crock of shite!! Mix in several bags of sugar with a ton of bullsh** and serve it the members; they'll even gladly come up to the pot again for second refills of the kool-aid.
- Hitch
Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by:
TaitenAndProud
()
Date: April 13, 2013 03:10PM
You know how they talk about how strict the law of cause and effect is? Funny how rarely that concept turns around and bites them in the ass, though it should, obviously and frequently. Let's see how it plays out, shall we?
- If you spend lots of time working for free for the SGI, you will have less time for family, friends, and earning money.
- If you give lots of money to the SGI, you will end up less well off financially - you have proven that you cannot hold onto money. And, thus, you will be poor.
- Whenever you put yourself and your own life in second place, you make the cause to be always ignored and never made a priority. You will never be #1 - with anyone. Not even with yourself. And it hurts to be the ugly sister.
- If you obey your leaders without question, everyone around you will likewise expect you to be their patsy - and you will have no skills in standing up for yourself, so you'll be their bitch.
- If you suck up to the most powerful person, that person will use you so long as s/he finds you useful and then you'll be discarded, thrown away like so much trash. And everyone in power in your life will treat you likewise.
Unless you live a respectworthy life, unless you avoid people who maltreat you and treat you disrespectfully, you will never have true integrity. Unless you value *yourself* most highly, you will never be valued by anyone else. There is no power outside of yourself that can change your life - how many times did we hear that?? - and yet the members are supposed to think that if they only devote themselves body and soul to the organization, THAT will somehow translate into changing their lives for the better?? No, sorry, it makes things better for the ORGANIZATION, not for the MEMBERS!
Cause and effect. It's strict, folks.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/2013 03:11PM by TaitenAndProud.
- If you spend lots of time working for free for the SGI, you will have less time for family, friends, and earning money.
- If you give lots of money to the SGI, you will end up less well off financially - you have proven that you cannot hold onto money. And, thus, you will be poor.
- Whenever you put yourself and your own life in second place, you make the cause to be always ignored and never made a priority. You will never be #1 - with anyone. Not even with yourself. And it hurts to be the ugly sister.
- If you obey your leaders without question, everyone around you will likewise expect you to be their patsy - and you will have no skills in standing up for yourself, so you'll be their bitch.
- If you suck up to the most powerful person, that person will use you so long as s/he finds you useful and then you'll be discarded, thrown away like so much trash. And everyone in power in your life will treat you likewise.
Unless you live a respectworthy life, unless you avoid people who maltreat you and treat you disrespectfully, you will never have true integrity. Unless you value *yourself* most highly, you will never be valued by anyone else. There is no power outside of yourself that can change your life - how many times did we hear that?? - and yet the members are supposed to think that if they only devote themselves body and soul to the organization, THAT will somehow translate into changing their lives for the better?? No, sorry, it makes things better for the ORGANIZATION, not for the MEMBERS!
Cause and effect. It's strict, folks.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/13/2013 03:11PM by TaitenAndProud.
Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by:
Spartacus
()
Date: April 13, 2013 09:31PM
Quote
Hitch
They say that after a while, the little slave dog starts to look like its "Master" (or vice versa) -
Napoleon-Ikeda & Squealer-Elliot, perhaps?? (From "Animal Farm"). A 100% apt analogy. One could write a book discussing all of the Gakkai Cult Org.'s doublespeak, cult gobbledygook, alone.
Ikeda pseudo-buddhist cult propaganda piece [www.youtube.com], featuring Elliot and others. (Warning: Harsh Comment Alert) Illiterate war brides, join the gakkai cult branch in America for a sense of "community", a crutch to cope in their new, foreign and harsh world. Embracing superstition, ritual, magical thinking and clutching their cult master's "guidance", become inadvertent slaves to the cult org., converting, enslaving and manipulating others to do the same.
Nobody can tell me otherwise, because I've seen it all firsthand, with these so-called "pioneering" members. Kazue Elliot is at the very top of the list when it comes to intolerant, Jekyll & Hyde, manipulative and abusive behavior toward "members." The $oka Gakkai Cult Org. has zero to do with "world peace" and everything to do with becoming a slave to The Dear Leader, Ikeda-sama. That clip is the cult org. rewriting a fictional history for American's Cousin Rufus, nothing more.
Like I said, what a crock of shite!! Mix in several bags of sugar with a ton of bullsh** and serve it the members; they'll even gladly come up to the pot again for second refills of the kool-aid.
- Hitch
Hitch you are right on the mark! I knew Kazue Elliot, pioneer of cult - she was my senior leader's leader. Top dog over the back biting WD heirarchy, this woman was beyond scary. Her ice cold veins oozed with power, manipulation, and control. When she set her gaze upon you, it felt like been watched by the all-seeing evil eye from the Lord of the Rings story. Elliot the slavedriver had a thinly disguised aura of cunning and ruthlessness about her. The plastic smiled WD slave overseers immediately turned from vicious whip lashers to obediant servants whenever mafia don Elliot was present. You had to see the look in her eyes and hear the sound of her voice to understand how her fake smile was a total facade. This was the woman that my leader emulated in leadership style. Constant games of power and deceit covered by sickly sweet voices and smiles that quickly disappeared when being subjected to the angry wrath of a demon from hell. Simply displease a cult leader like her and prove my point.
And as Hitch pointed out, Elliot acted as cheerleader in charge when her senior leader(s) were present. Always sucking up to her more powerful slave overlords (Williams and Ikeda), yet bitch-commanding her slave underlings - perfect examples of manifesting the worlds of animalism (slavery) and anger (ego and resentment). In a cult, the closer one rises to the top, the more one reeks of the rotten core that comprises the center (I refer here to dear leader, of course).
The term Master and disciple is nothing more than a cute euthemism for master and slave in the SG cult of personalities. Anyone that professes a desire to "give my life for sensei (master)" is so full of cult crap it is spilling out of their mouth. Such a slave is so delusional, they will become a willing and enthusiastic kiss-ass servant to any cult leader presented, while delusionally insisting they have never been enslaved.
It is better to die free, than live as a slave.
Spartacus
PS At the end of the video linked above, there is another HQ WD leader sitting with Elliot (she also speaks briefly during video). Does anybody recall this other slave master's name? I think it might have been Takakua or something like that. She was almost always in the cult entourage from LA, and for me, a face even scarier than Elliot's.
Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by:
Spartacus
()
Date: April 13, 2013 09:52PM
Be on the lookout for dangerous insurgent, Dear Leader.
Known Cult thug conspirator.
Alias: Faty McFat
Wanted for mafia-style criminal activities.
Danger to society - do not attempt citizen arrest.
Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by:
Nichijew
()
Date: April 14, 2013 12:15AM
Kazue Elliot reveals the truth about the Ikeda pseudo-Buddhist cult at the ~ 5:40 mark, "...Everyone is looking for power..." Actually, the Buddha renounced his position of power and Nichiren Daishonin never sought power. Fascism and fascists seek power at any cost. Ikeda is a disciple of Machiavelli, not Buddha and the Lotus Sutra ["The Machiavellian personality is characterized by manipulation and exploitation of others, with a cynical disregard for morality and a focus on self-interest and deception." -- Wikipedia].Quote
Hitch
They say that after a while, the little slave dog starts to look like its "Master" (or vice versa) -
Napoleon-Ikeda & Squealer-Elliot, perhaps?? (From "Animal Farm"). A 100% apt analogy. One could write a book discussing all of the Gakkai Cult Org.'s doublespeak, cult gobbledygook, alone.
Ikeda pseudo-buddhist cult propaganda piece [www.youtube.com], featuring Elliot and others. (Warning: Harsh Comment Alert) Illiterate war brides, join the gakkai cult branch in America for a sense of "community", a crutch to cope in their new, foreign and harsh world. Embracing superstition, ritual, magical thinking and clutching their cult master's "guidance", become inadvertent slaves to the cult org., converting, enslaving and manipulating others to do the same.
Nobody can tell me otherwise, because I've seen it all firsthand, with these so-called "pioneering" members. Kazue Elliot is at the very top of the list when it comes to intolerant, Jekyll & Hyde, manipulative and abusive behavior toward "members." The $oka Gakkai Cult Org. has zero to do with "world peace" and everything to do with becoming a slave to The Dear Leader, Ikeda-sama. That clip is the cult org. rewriting a fictional history for American's Cousin Rufus, nothing more.
Like I said, what a crock of shite!! Mix in several bags of sugar with a ton of bullsh** and serve it the members; they'll even gladly come up to the pot again for second refills of the kool-aid.
- Hitch
N
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/14/2013 12:16AM by Nichijew.
Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by:
Nichijew
()
Date: April 14, 2013 12:21AM
Quote
SpartacusQuote
Hitch
They say that after a while, the little slave dog starts to look like its "Master" (or vice versa) -
Napoleon-Ikeda & Squealer-Elliot, perhaps?? (From "Animal Farm"). A 100% apt analogy. One could write a book discussing all of the Gakkai Cult Org.'s doublespeak, cult gobbledygook, alone.
Ikeda pseudo-buddhist cult propaganda piece [www.youtube.com], featuring Elliot and others. (Warning: Harsh Comment Alert) Illiterate war brides, join the gakkai cult branch in America for a sense of "community", a crutch to cope in their new, foreign and harsh world. Embracing superstition, ritual, magical thinking and clutching their cult master's "guidance", become inadvertent slaves to the cult org., converting, enslaving and manipulating others to do the same.
Nobody can tell me otherwise, because I've seen it all firsthand, with these so-called "pioneering" members. Kazue Elliot is at the very top of the list when it comes to intolerant, Jekyll & Hyde, manipulative and abusive behavior toward "members." The $oka Gakkai Cult Org. has zero to do with "world peace" and everything to do with becoming a slave to The Dear Leader, Ikeda-sama. That clip is the cult org. rewriting a fictional history for American's Cousin Rufus, nothing more.
Like I said, what a crock of shite!! Mix in several bags of sugar with a ton of bullsh** and serve it the members; they'll even gladly come up to the pot again for second refills of the kool-aid.
- Hitch
How true!
N
Hitch you are right on the mark! I knew Kazue Elliot, pioneer of cult - she was my senior leader's leader. Top dog over the back biting WD heirarchy, this woman was beyond scary. Her ice cold veins oozed with power, manipulation, and control. When she set her gaze upon you, it felt like been watched by the all-seeing evil eye from the Lord of the Rings story. Elliot the slavedriver had a thinly disguised aura of cunning and ruthlessness about her. The plastic smiled WD slave overseers immediately turned from vicious whip lashers to obediant servants whenever mafia don Elliot was present. You had to see the look in her eyes and hear the sound of her voice to understand how her fake smile was a total facade. This was the woman that my leader emulated in leadership style. Constant games of power and deceit covered by sickly sweet voices and smiles that quickly disappeared when being subjected to the angry wrath of a demon from hell. Simply displease a cult leader like her and prove my point.
And as Hitch pointed out, Elliot acted as cheerleader in charge when her senior leader(s) were present. Always sucking up to her more powerful slave overlords (Williams and Ikeda), yet bitch-commanding her slave underlings - perfect examples of manifesting the worlds of animalism (slavery) and anger (ego and resentment). In a cult, the closer one rises to the top, the more one reeks of the rotten core that comprises the center (I refer here to dear leader, of course).
The term Master and disciple is nothing more than a cute euthemism for master and slave in the SG cult of personalities. Anyone that professes a desire to "give my life for sensei (master)" is so full of cult crap it is spilling out of their mouth. Such a slave is so delusional, they will become a willing and enthusiastic kiss-ass servant to any cult leader presented, while delusionally insisting they have never been enslaved.
It is better to die free, than live as a slave.
Spartacus
PS At the end of the video linked above, there is another HQ WD leader sitting with Elliot (she also speaks briefly during video). Does anybody recall this other slave master's name? I think it might have been Takakua or something like that. She was almost always in the cult entourage from LA, and for me, a face even scarier than Elliot's.
Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by:
Nichijew
()
Date: April 14, 2013 12:22AM
How true!Quote
SpartacusQuote
Hitch
They say that after a while, the little slave dog starts to look like its "Master" (or vice versa) -
Napoleon-Ikeda & Squealer-Elliot, perhaps?? (From "Animal Farm"). A 100% apt analogy. One could write a book discussing all of the Gakkai Cult Org.'s doublespeak, cult gobbledygook, alone.
Ikeda pseudo-buddhist cult propaganda piece [www.youtube.com], featuring Elliot and others. (Warning: Harsh Comment Alert) Illiterate war brides, join the gakkai cult branch in America for a sense of "community", a crutch to cope in their new, foreign and harsh world. Embracing superstition, ritual, magical thinking and clutching their cult master's "guidance", become inadvertent slaves to the cult org., converting, enslaving and manipulating others to do the same.
Nobody can tell me otherwise, because I've seen it all firsthand, with these so-called "pioneering" members. Kazue Elliot is at the very top of the list when it comes to intolerant, Jekyll & Hyde, manipulative and abusive behavior toward "members." The $oka Gakkai Cult Org. has zero to do with "world peace" and everything to do with becoming a slave to The Dear Leader, Ikeda-sama. That clip is the cult org. rewriting a fictional history for American's Cousin Rufus, nothing more.
Like I said, what a crock of shite!! Mix in several bags of sugar with a ton of bullsh** and serve it the members; they'll even gladly come up to the pot again for second refills of the kool-aid.
- Hitch
Hitch you are right on the mark! I knew Kazue Elliot, pioneer of cult - she was my senior leader's leader. Top dog over the back biting WD heirarchy, this woman was beyond scary. Her ice cold veins oozed with power, manipulation, and control. When she set her gaze upon you, it felt like been watched by the all-seeing evil eye from the Lord of the Rings story. Elliot the slavedriver had a thinly disguised aura of cunning and ruthlessness about her. The plastic smiled WD slave overseers immediately turned from vicious whip lashers to obediant servants whenever mafia don Elliot was present. You had to see the look in her eyes and hear the sound of her voice to understand how her fake smile was a total facade. This was the woman that my leader emulated in leadership style. Constant games of power and deceit covered by sickly sweet voices and smiles that quickly disappeared when being subjected to the angry wrath of a demon from hell. Simply displease a cult leader like her and prove my point.
And as Hitch pointed out, Elliot acted as cheerleader in charge when her senior leader(s) were present. Always sucking up to her more powerful slave overlords (Williams and Ikeda), yet bitch-commanding her slave underlings - perfect examples of manifesting the worlds of animalism (slavery) and anger (ego and resentment). In a cult, the closer one rises to the top, the more one reeks of the rotten core that comprises the center (I refer here to dear leader, of course).
The term Master and disciple is nothing more than a cute euthemism for master and slave in the SG cult of personalities. Anyone that professes a desire to "give my life for sensei (master)" is so full of cult crap it is spilling out of their mouth. Such a slave is so delusional, they will become a willing and enthusiastic kiss-ass servant to any cult leader presented, while delusionally insisting they have never been enslaved.
It is better to die free, than live as a slave.
Spartacus
PS At the end of the video linked above, there is another HQ WD leader sitting with Elliot (she also speaks briefly during video). Does anybody recall this other slave master's name? I think it might have been Takakua or something like that. She was almost always in the cult entourage from LA, and for me, a face even scarier than Elliot's.
Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
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Date: April 14, 2013 01:44AM
While it is true that the Buddha renounced all power, Nichiren Daishonin had an insatiable greed for it - take a look, from the Establishing the Correct Law for the Peace of the Land gosho, aka Rissho Ankoku Ron:Quote
Actually, the Buddha renounced his position of power and Nichiren Daishonin never sought power.
No freedom of conscience for Nichiren! But I'm sure the facist state Nichiren is advocating *is* more "tranquil" than a democracy O_OQuote
"If you wish to bring about the tranquility of the empire as soon as possible, first of all, you had better put a ban on the slanderers of the True Dharma throughout the nation.
Wow. So now *murder* is a virtue! THINK! Does *THIS* sound like Buddhism???Quote
You, my guest, have seen clear statements in the Nirvana Sutra outlawing slanderers of the True Dharma. Yet you ask me such a question. Is it because you don't understand them, or is it because you don't know the reason for them? What the Nirvana Sutra means is not that we should outlaw disciples of the Buddha at all but that we should solely chastise slanderers of the True Dharma.
Those who wish to uphold the True Dharma should arm themselves with swords, bows and arrows, and halberds, instead of observing the five precepts (against killing, stealing, adultery, lying, and drinking alcohol), and keeping propriety. ... Therefore, those laymen who wish to defend the True Dharma should arm themselves with swords and sticks in order to defend it just as King Virtuous (who killed numerous monks) did.
One who kills an ant will fall into the three evil realms (hell, the realm of hungry spirits, and that of beasts and birds [aka hell, hunger, and animality]) without fail, but one who eliminates a slanderer of the True Dharma will reach the stage of non-regression, and eventually will attain Buddhahood. ... King Virtuous, who killed slanderers to defend the True Dharma, was reborn in this world as Shakyamuni Buddha.
The Buddha never spoke a harsh word to *anyone*. And he *NEVER* "chased" or "punished" people! I think we've heard enough from ol' Nicki the Stick!Quote
On the other hand, if he accuses the destroyer of the dharma, chases him out, or punishes him strictly, such a man is My disciple, one who truly hears Me.
That's right - it's *FINE* to kill those who don't agree with you! THAT is what Nichiren sought, for *other people* to kill all the leaders of rival Buddhist sects so that HE, Nichiren, could be the One and Only, the "Pillar of Japan". He desperately wanted to be a superstar. But he wasn't superstar material.Quote
King Siladitya of ancient India was a sage who protected Buddhism. Punishing only the ringleader, the king spared the lives of other members who rebelled against him, banishing them from his kingdom. Emperor Hsuan-tsung of T'ang China was a wise ruler who protected Buddhism. He executed 12 Taoist masters, eliminating enemies of the Buddha and restoring Buddhism.
Freedom of speech - bah! What a *stupid* concept! EVERYONE should be *forced* to join the One Troo Religion, which, in the US, will no doubt be defined as Christianity. Sure you want to go this direction, Nichijew? Either EVERYONE is free to choose whatever religion they please, or YOU will be forced to go through the motions of practicing a religion that is abhorrent to you (or at least doesn't fit you and isn't meaningful to you in any way). Is that what you want? THAT is what Nichiren was advocating.Quote
If you wish to bring about peace in our country and pray for happiness in this life, as well as in the future, then waste no time. Think hard and take the necessary measures to thoroughly deal with slanderers of the True Dharma.
Is it not the best way to prevent calamities from overtaking the land to ban the one evil teaching, the source of all the troubles, instead of having various devotional services?
And that last bit shows a most unBuddhist, unbecoming, and despicable disdain for people performing essential tasks for the benefit of all society. Clearly the hyper-competitive world of anger talking. I'll go ahead and quote myself from an earlier post on this thread:Quote
Slanderers of the True Dharma will be suffering in a large hell due to their cumulative evil karma of destroying the True Dharma. ... When their serious crime is reduced and they are allowed to be reborn in the human world, they will be born in the family of the blind, outcasts, or base people who clean toilets and bury dead bodies. Or they will be born without eyes, mouth, ears, or hands functioning properly."
Want to see naked power-mongering? Read on:Quote
What a horrid, judgmental, arrogant man!! Look how he blames the poor, the destitute, and the handicapped for causing their own problems because of evil behavior from previous lifetimes! Do you think this is an appropriate perspective for a modern person to hold? Notice that Nichiren defines "slanderers of the True Dharma" as "anyone who preferred a different flavor of Buddhism." Naturally, "the True Dharma" meant "Nichiren's own interpretation." Nichiren obviously wished harm on the competition; he just wanted OTHER PEOPLE to do it. He wants fascism - he wants the government to adopt and enforce his own personal intolerant attitude (and make him famous in the process).
That's from Nichiren's own hand, from the Nichiren gosho On the Selection of the Time. And what Nichiren recommended - that all the other sects of Buddhism be wiped out so that HE could be a national celebrity and control the whole enchilada - wasn't done, and guess what? Japan still exists as an independent country today! Nichiren warned that, if the Powers That Be didn't do *exactly* as he said, Japan would be invaded by Mongols and become a Mongolian vassal state - THAT never happened, even though the Powers That Be ignored Nichiren's power-mad ravings.Quote
All the Nembutsu and Zen temples, such as Kenchoji, Jufuku-ji, Gokuraku-ji, Daibutsuden, and Choraku-ji, should be burned to the ground, and their priests taken to Yui Beach to have their heads cut off. If this is not done, then Japan is certain to be destroyed!
I recommend we do the same. Outdated philosophies from primitive stages of human social development should be left behind or only regarded as anthropological sources - evidence of how different people and their societies were back then. Every text that has no concept of fundamental human rights and human freedoms is incompatible with modern culture and is, in fact, the very "evil" that will harm many people. Nichiren's intolerant teachings are the "evil teaching" that will destroy the nation! We do not need to move backward. There is no "transcendent knowledge" that could only be known to ancient people who thought that supernatural woo ran the world, and there is no "great secret of life" that some primitive Joe (or Joe-san) managed to think and thus figured it all out - for all time. That's just ignorant, lazy thinking. People can and must think for themselves. No one out there has the answer to your life. Only YOU can figure it out.
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