Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by: Hitch ()
Date: September 27, 2012 08:08AM

(Mis)-Fortune Baby = Childhood Indoctrination (This clip is $oka Gakkai Cult specific).

[www.youtube.com] (Be sure to watch to end, "Fortune Baby - Special Donation" box.)

Speaking from experience (then & now), it is better to teach your children how to think for themselves, rationally, logically, skeptically, critically, to evaluate evidence, to challenge and even disagree with you. Give them the necessary tools to allow them to voluntarily decide on their own informed path of worship.


- Hitch

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Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by: Nichijew ()
Date: September 27, 2012 09:38PM

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"The head of my chapter looked at me squarely and said, “Earthly desires equal enlightenment.” Huh? I don’t know where I’d heard that Buddhism was about non-attachment and shit. Silly me. And that’s when the witch-hunt began."

tsukimoto


The witch hunt. If you vaguely veered towards criticism while communicating in the group, you could immediately sense the witch hunt bubbling under the surface.

It's the self policing non spoken policies that stifle any authentic dialogue, something that the SGI cult blathers about constantly.


Everything is smiles until you approach questions regarding the SGI, then it's sudden police state. It's black and white. Play on this script and you can have your fake community, walk left or right of the line and prepare to get harassed.

Interestingly, I would use complex measures to introduce content exposing the nature of the SGI cult and sometimes people would agree. It's a matter of not using direct language.

You know, the reason they can paint us as disgruntled members is because they have hijacked smiles and sunshine as their group think agenda. Anyone who attacks the SGI cult, attacks smiles and sunshine as well. "Look how disgruntled these people are", they hate balloons and chanting bears.

Attacking the SGI cult is attacking everything positive in the universe. The cult will do whatever it can to survive. It would hijack misery and depression if it would turn a profit.

Exactly. That's what this Junior Pioneer campaign is all about. Criticize SGI and you hate children [that and brainwashing them early]. They are devious to the core...and dangerous.

Nichijew

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Re: Soka Gakkai -- SGI- using the lure of sex to recruit
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 27, 2012 11:09PM

From experience, when SGI members are doing this, using the lure of sex to try and convert you to SGI fake-Buddhism, they consciously are not in fact doing it only for SGI.
They seem to be doing it for what they believe is their own "karma".

So in this case, it could be the SGI members/sisters believed that by getting men to join SGI by using flirty-fishing, they were going to improve their own "karma" and thus improve their own life, by getting more of what they want of their own earthly desires.

The first time I heard this it was shocking, as they were not recruiting for SGI to "save the world".
They were doing it, as SGI taught them that is how to improve their own fake-karma.

So SGI is very clever again.
SGI knows that many self-centered people will only work the hardest if they think they are going to benefit themselves. So SGI teaches them by converting people to SGI using any means, including the lure of sex aka flirty-fishing, then they will improve their own lives.
Of course, this is a sham, as all it does it get more members for SGI.

This seems to be a very very common practice in some areas, as the SGI chanting meetings are held up as defacto "dating parties"...as in..."come to this party there will be lots of single attractive people there".

Then you get there, and its a SGI chanting/recruiting session in someone's house.






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tsukimoto
Paul Marantz;s link is interesting. It's an account of how a good-looking woman (and her sister) took advantage of his attraction to her to pressure him to join SGI.

[www.paulmorantz.com]
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His friend comes over at this point, looking for him, and drags him out....Paul decides not to practice -- and of course never hears from Linda again once she realizes that he's not going to join SGI.

There are no depths that some SGI members won't sink to for shakabuku! For them, the ends justify the means...they can do almost anything!

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Re: Soka Gakkai -- SGI- using the lure of sex to recruit
Posted by: Hitch ()
Date: September 28, 2012 05:22AM

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The Anticult
From experience, when SGI members are doing this, using the lure of sex to try and convert you to SGI fake-Buddhism, they consciously are not in fact doing it only for SGI.
They seem to be doing it for what they believe is their own "karma".

So in this case, it could be the SGI members/sisters believed that by getting men to join SGI by using flirty-fishing, they were going to improve their own "karma" and thus improve their own life, by getting more of what they want of their own earthly desires.

The first time I heard this it was shocking, as they were not recruiting for SGI to "save the world".
They were doing it, as SGI taught them that is how to improve their own fake-karma.

So SGI is very clever again.
SGI knows that many self-centered people will only work the hardest if they think they are going to benefit themselves. So SGI teaches them by converting people to SGI using any means, including the lure of sex aka flirty-fishing, then they will improve their own lives.
Of course, this is a sham, as all it does it get more members for SGI.

This seems to be a very very common practice in some areas, as the SGI chanting meetings are held up as defacto "dating parties"...as in..."come to this party there will be lots of single attractive people there".

Then you get there, and its a SGI chanting/recruiting session in someone's house.

The women doing this, from my observations, are invariably of the super hardcore brainwashed looney-tune variety, too. Get beyond their looks and there isn't much upstairs, except for the lights being on.

(Although I'm being humorous, it *is* true, though. The girls I saw doing this kind of thing, were the type that were prone to psycho up-n-down cycles and bounced from one dysfunctional relationship to the next, either being used or getting used in the process. Very, very unstable people, that kind that one would be best advised to stay away from, for your own mental and physical health.)

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Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by: Hitch ()
Date: September 28, 2012 05:35AM

Jr. Pioneers = $oka Gakkai Cult Pseudo-Buddhist Camp.

It looks all warm and fuzzy at first glance, but it is essentially taking little people who have not yet developed their own mental faculties and downloading the cult software into their heads from the get-go. Many will not ever be able to completely delete this software, because growing up in the gakkai cult ensures that it gets upgraded automatically (ironically, downgraded in reality) every year that you remain a "member."

Jr. Pioneers is usually run by ultra-zealot parent volunteers (usually a mother, but I have also seen rare fathers involved) and uber-ignorant ultra-zealot-to-be crazy brainwashed, "YOUTH!" division who have taken it up as their own personal idealized mission to "devolop" more "capable 'YOUTH!'" (actual cult-speak here) for Cousin Rufus' Bodhisattva Soldier Corps.

You attend meetings regularly where you learn to do gongyo (morning & evening prayers), with longer and longer daimoku (marathon magic words, NMRK, chanting sessions). You also get monthly "daimoku charts", which are little un-colored diagrams (usually gakkai cult themed) made up of hundreds of tiny little squares. You get to fill in ONE square for every 5 minutes of the magic chant you do. These forms had to be signed by your parents and turned in for inspection every month. If you filled it all in (or multiples), you got a prize in return (some Japanese or gakkai trinket). If you didn't manage to complete it, then you'd get scolded and a promise extracted from you to to better next time.

They also drill into you gosho quotes, to rote memorize and recite back at later meetings. It might be Ikeda-isms now, but when I was in, it was stuff like the "Kaimoku Sho", that had to be recited in both Japanese and English. (For those that don't know, the "Kaimoku-Sho" is the "Opening of the Eyes" or "Liberation from Blindness" passages that basically say don't ever forget your promise to never go 'taiten', or abandon your faith, in which case you will be 'foolish', abandoned by the buddhist gods, etc.) It's a recurring theme in the cult org., a veiled threat, that if you abandon the $oka cult, you will fall into the depths of hell and evil influences and your life will ultimately fall apart someday. As you grow up, they take commemorative photos using this same passage theme (as in this example, [crossandlotus.files.wordpress.com], look at the inscription in the left corner), give you little bookmarks or laminated signs with the same threats (errr, I mean message). It's manipulative fear, or at least that's how the gakkai cult worked it.

Here is some more wonderful Jr. Pioneer cult paraphernalia that is destined for the kiddies' physical and mental lifetime memory box, [www.post1.net].

IMO, it is the essentially the equivalent of this [www.youtube.com] and this [www.youtube.com]. The second clip, by the way, isn't too far off base, because fast forward in some of these Jr. Pioneers' members' lives and you'll later see them with regular or salaried cult leadership positions in the cult org., preaching just as falsely confident and ignorantly arrogant messages to the membership masses.

This is not an innocent cute kiddy club playtime get together. It has real consequences in the lives of these innocent kids. They are victims of both the cult org. and (inadvertently, of course) their parents' misguided and ignorant intentions.

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Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by: Hitch ()
Date: September 28, 2012 06:47AM

Some daimoku chart examples -

1 million daimoku chart (a million was the all-time special magic # to go with the magic chant, to reach magic breakthroughs) [webpages.charter.net].

Here, [dl.dropbox.com], climb the "Million Mountain." (Or the "Million Mountain Book", if you prefer, [daimokucharts.org], scroll down for selection).

An Ikeda bucket list (no pun intended), [dl.dropbox.com].

An sgi cult chart, [cclfaith.blogspot.jp].

Check this out, the cult even has "Executive Reports" on how to best exploit (err, I mean utilize) these Manipulative Magic Lucky Charts, [tnels.com].

If I remember correctly, something like 300 hours is supposed to equate to one million magic chants. Some people are not content with that, either, and go on to multiple million mark daimoku campaign goals.

Lovely, isn't it. (Sorry if this is harsh, but looking back on all of this now, it's looks like nothing short of - 'insanity'. JMO.)

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Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by: Nichijew ()
Date: September 28, 2012 10:14AM

[www.ssabuddhist.org]

Salaries and bonuses ~ $1,000,000

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Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by: Upgrayed ()
Date: September 28, 2012 10:44AM

Interesting.

U.S dollar to Singapore dollar: SGD/USD = 1.22654

Total money held is 39,308,337 SGD or after conversion, 32,048,149.27 USD.

Total membership for SSA or Singapore Soka Association is 7,000 for youth division and no numbers for MD and WD.

This is what is told to the members on the SSA website:

Funding



SSA is funded largely by the voluntary donations of her members. Donations are received all year round via walk-in and mail-in channels as well as direct banking instructions by some members.



Annually, the Association organises a one-month donation exercise for members who wish to contribute under the Member Contribution Fund sustained contribution programme.



Other important sources of income for SSA include:



Income generated from sales of Buddhist and related literature and religious accessories;

Income from subscriptions to SSA periodicals, the Creative Life monthly magazine and the SSA Times newsletters;

Income from the lease of niches at the Soka Columbarium; and

Fund-raising from in-house events, such as musical concerts "


Sounds so pure and innocent.



Looking at the financial report more carefully, they made over 3 million in profit or what they call "surplus" between 2010 and 2011.

Separately they have a "building fund" which is the SSA's real estate or "land and building". The "building fund" is 38,892,000 or 31,167,400 US Dollar(s)

So combine the real estate and cash: 63,215,549.27 US dollars.

Imagine what SGI USA's books look like.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/28/2012 11:04AM by Upgrayed.

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Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by: Hitch ()
Date: September 28, 2012 07:47PM

An interesting paper on the history of NSA (early $oka gakkai cult days in America, aka: Nichiren Shoshu Academy, of America), [nirc.nanzan-u.ac.jp], taken from the Dec. 1980 Journal of Japanese Religious Studies.

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"The Jonestown incident of 1978 only brought to a head anti-occult feelings already present among the general public of the United States. This paper explores how one such unorthodox group, Nichiren Shoshu Academy, changed and adapted to meet this less favorable atmosphere of the 1970s."

"By the end of the 1970s, American members were demanding that the movement be managed more demo­cratically and that their opinions be more reflected in policy decisions. More specifically, members wanted less proselytizing and fewer non-religious activities, such as conventions, parades, and singing. They also wanted Buddhist teachings to be kept separate from Japanese customs, such as sitting on the floor and using Japanese titles to refer to the leaders (hancho, fujinbucho, etc.). NSA top leaders set up meetings called “open forums” in which regular members as well as lower- and middle-range members were free to speak out. In this way, their opinions were systematically solicited throughout the United States. Reflecting the members’ wishes, the organization has be­come less rigid and less hierarchical, and local groups are now given more freedom to decide on their own activities in accord with their own needs and interests. The Grand Culture Festival, planned for 1979 to celebrate the 700th anniversary of the inscription of the original object of worship (dai gohonzon) by Nichiren, was cancelled partly as a result of the request of some American members. These members felt that such a mass gathering of NSA/Soka Gakkai in Los Angeles would create unnecessary publicity in the wake of the Jonestown incident of 1978."

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Absolutely none of the so-called institutionalized changes survived into the new decade of the 1980's, because I can attest to the fact that the NSA cult org. was anti-democratic, blinded by obsessive proselytizing, had meetings almost nightly, had tons of conventions / parades, and used nothing but Japanese customs and labels for any and everything related to all cult org. activities. In short, it was the epitome of a "cult."

The gakkai has always been super-sensitive to the "cult" label or cult-like appearances, especially today, with all of the bizarre, ramped up dear leader worship going on. They are always trying to dance around the obvious. "The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

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Re: Soka Gakkai International -- SGI
Posted by: Nichijew ()
Date: September 28, 2012 08:58PM

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Hitch
Some daimoku chart examples -

1 million daimoku chart (a million was the all-time special magic # to go with the magic chant, to reach magic breakthroughs) [webpages.charter.net].

Here, [dl.dropbox.com], climb the "Million Mountain." (Or the "Million Mountain Book", if you prefer, [daimokucharts.org], scroll down for selection).

An Ikeda bucket list (no pun intended), [dl.dropbox.com].

An sgi cult chart, [cclfaith.blogspot.jp].

Check this out, the cult even has "Executive Reports" on how to best exploit (err, I mean utilize) these Manipulative Magic Lucky Charts, [tnels.com].

If I remember correctly, something like 300 hours is supposed to equate to one million magic chants. Some people are not content with that, either, and go on to multiple million mark daimoku campaign goals.

Lovely, isn't it. (Sorry if this is harsh, but looking back on all of this now, it's looks like nothing short of - 'insanity'. JMO.)
ACTUAL PROOF [of SGI "Daimoku" of warped faith]

[kemponhokke.blogspot.com]

I find it both sad and amusing that all the trillions of SGI Daimoku couldn't even save a building but the deluded SGI members believe their teachings powerful enough to carry them to the other shore of Buddhahood.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/28/2012 09:11PM by Nichijew.

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