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Good News! Recovery IS possible! AND.. when / if others so choose, they can find an online map for help.
Just an observation here. One of my earliest encounters with a discussion group of any kind was a.m.t. (alt.meditation.transcendental). Lucky me, at the time I looked in they were still discussing tm. Mostly, now, it's just a roving chit-chat about anything but.
This particular forum, then, was not unlike the US vs El Quida. Those for tm were malignant in their attacks on those against, who were less caustic in their replies, but always kept on the defensive. It was a terrible, terrible place where I learned many, many valuable things, including to think really clearly about what I intended to communicate before I put into words/typing.
The "for's" were far better at ripping up word-usage and sentence structure (and they didn't overlook spelling as a way to dig deeper into your defenses, either) than they actually were at "defending the faith". But what was important for them was to grind down and demoralize anyone not on their best-friends list (anyone who opposed their way of thinking).
Probably, as HH the Dalai Lama has said about Mao Tse Tung, a.m.t. was one of my best teachers in the cult-recovery process. Mao, as HH says, taught him patience. a.m.t. taught me to consider and re-consider just where my feelings were coming from, to seek to articulate the meaning that lay hidden beneath the emotional knee-jerk I had never before recognized for what it was.
I am not sure one needs to go to hell in order to get ready to appreciate heaven. That might be a touch extreme. But taking up even a really weak oppositional position against the defenders of the faith can have it's value.
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