hey, its a good idea to repost your posts into the main SGI thread, as single posts tend to get lost.
Just copy/paste the same post into the main thread, for future reference. (you may have to change it a little). Just repost it there, if you want.
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That is the same experience that can be seen with many SGI people, in that what they are doing is not "Buddhism". Its more than kinds nuts to say Greed, Lust, Vanity, hate your enemies, and Worldly Power, are Buddhism?
uh...not quite!
Ikeda is just using methods he is calling "Buddhism", to manage and control large groups of people. Similar perhaps how "Roman" Catholicism was used by the Romans and after to manage large masses of people. And the guys at the top didn't live by the same rules either!
also, there are many other groups who claim what they do is some kind of Buddhism.
Why? It seems that in the west, Buddhism still has a good reputation, and now is trendy, like Yoga. So they call whatever they are doing Buddhism, and it gives them a fig-leaf to hide behind.
There is a so-called Korean "Zen" group, the Kwan Um School of Zen from Seung Sahn, who do all sorts of aggressive, dishonest, and harmful stuff. Their leader Seung Sahn even told people to disregard Buddhist texts, and find the Buddha inside.
Well, what if what you are finding is not the Buddha within, but Bubba within? What if you find a greedy, dishonest, lazy, corrupt, sex-abusing Bubba within, and they act like you are a evil "Buddha" who can do anything you want, including having sex with your students, like Seung Sahn did?
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There is also a type of OMing sex-chanting group/cult, who do all sorts of stuff, like women getting naked from the waist down, and have strangers "massage" them wearing surgical gloves...and they call that "Buddhist" too.
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So Greed, Vanity, Lust, Deception, Political Power, Narcissism, capitalism, lying, promiscuous sex, hating your enemies, revenge, drugs, booze, thats the New Buddhism.
What is NOT Buddhism of course, is the 4 Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path.