Ah yes, I have platform memories of Earth shoes and Binaca.

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Changed4me
I remember when M started
> designating the wife as the spiritual leader of a
> marriage and that husbands were to submit
> themselves unto their wife. I remember the date,
> time, place where it happened to me. Part of
> the"pitch" to accept this was M telling my wife
> and I that she chose us because we were strong and
> could handle it.... once again it gave us the
> feeling of having M's approval I remember how
> Bill Maybe struggled with this. It ultimately
> drove him away from his marriage, church and son.
>
> Looking back, as hindsight is always 20/20, this
> role reversal was designed to break the male
> spirit and establish M's stronghold as the
> spiritual leader. I remember G telling me how
> difficult it was for him. From the early days, I
> think M saw herself in an exhaulted way because
> she was the chosen one to bring forth the man of
> God that was going to bring forth the kingdom on
> the earth. I think she used the same principle
> with Gary.... he was the voice from the pulpit,
> but in reality, she directed him as to what the
> will of God was going to be.... shining bright the
> path as the Lamp of Israel....what a bunch of mind
> controling bunk!...just my humble opinion.

>
> My wife and I came to see Marilyn as a "King
> Maker". She would help the one she latched onto
> and propel him to the top.
>
> "Kingmaker" is also used in some countries to
> refer to those individuals with the ability to
> influence the selection of political leaders. The
> term though always unofficial, has tended to gain
> more importance in places of power struggle e.g.
> politics, sports organizations etc. Consequently,
> bestowement of such a title is looked upon
> significantly and more often as a means of
> indirect gratification for individuals wanting to
> silently dictate the affairs of the organization."
>
> This is what has happened to tlwf. I was at the
> 1984 meeting in Sepulveda when she was choosing
> the men who would stand with her. They have become
> what we always tried to avoid: becoming like
> "Babylon". I heard the tapes where she directed
> marriages to break up. It was a big mess.
>
> Way back in the early days whenever the
> phrase,"the living word" was used my wife and I
> always thought of God's Word (the scriptures),
> what we didn't realize until later is those who
> used it the most were speaking of the word,
> sermons, this weeks, and tapes from jrs. He was
> not the Christ, John the Beloved, or our Father in
> the heavens. However, regarding the posts seeking
> info about John. Was he a drinker? A womanizer?
> That's like focusing on the debauchery of the
> prodigal son, "Can you tell me more about those
> prostitutes?", rather than on the forgiveness,
> grace, and love of the father. John was a man whom
> God used just like He has used anyone of us.
> Different calling, different gifts, but the same
> Spirit.
>
> Galatians 2:6 "As for those who were held in high
> esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to
> me; God does not show favoritism—they added
> nothing to my message."
>
> We have one Teacher, One Father, One Spirit, and
> we are all brothers. Once again those in
> leadership have given themselves over to exalt
> marilyn and gary the same way they exalted jrs.
> And now with gary reaching out to the catholic
> church it's all over, but the shouting. IMHO.


I have read this thread over and over. She systematically took over step by step, day by day year by year. She knew all the dirty little secrets that boosted her grandiose dellusions that she is god...am I getting that correct?

I feel horible for the things I say about some geographical groups in the walk. I hear all to often " We are under grace. We can do what we want." No one took the people with addiction problems aside who were leadership?

My ex had said, " I found out i'm an alocoloic after only DHS forced him to go to a few AA meeitngs. I have a disaease. You are co-dependant so you are sicker than me. God has given me grace to drink when I want." I think the "brothers" he was around in Anahiem shared his attitude but they were better at covering up than my late husband.

M knew all the dirty secrets because the taped minstiry. I wondered why the male leaders which I think is so very natural to be in eadership ( Not meant as sexist remarek) They missed her sneaky plan to be queen of the world. Excuse me, I think she had the leaders by the bal#s black mailed. I am horrified at what happened to loving people.

M, I think, wanted her own version of wt haAimme Semple Mc had FAME, adoration, to be god. M was an opporturnistist who took over step by step, day by day. Th leaders should have seen it coming all under the guise of the Kingdom is at hand.

Now that she is dead...did she think she was immortal? I watched some of g vidoes where he said M is here with us. Sound like a sick denial name dropping because he was maybe demasculenated? But he had all the golden rule.

Sounds like M upset the balance of ancient family structure so she could be god with woman in submission to here and the men dominated /fearful under her feet with the help of "elevated" women... how how woman friends doing? Pretty much I have only read about the men leaders kicked out...which was a better place for them. But how could they support themselves then? Cult leader and prayor warrior of the queen of heaven is not the best thing to put on a resume.

Thank you for allowing me to express my shock and horror and what things turned into. I hope and pray no other good people fall into this kind of sick trap again.

The Jewel. I agree. We all needed to read what you said.
Big hugs to you, who ever you are.

I apologize for being a page hog. I have given some back history on the walk. Even though I have given you as accraute as i can typ-o plese do not eer take my word for fact. Look where we got outselves from believing everything one mand said.

If you have not yet read any thing about pre-walk days her is pretty good link for the history on Azusa. Yes, this is where the walk got its' start. Many thing "we" were lead to belive were jrs revelations I think you will see the wher they started from

"sign of something that would plague Pentecostalism and become a part of its character: divisiveness. Two other problems that would later infect Pentecostalism ...: fraud, and the presence of occultic mysticism along its edges. .... problems in Pentecostalist history: racism, authoritarianism, and sexual scandal. .... troubles with going by exciting experiences is that much of what went on was not thought through as thoroughly as was needed. So, not only were the greatest strengths of Pentecostalism born at Azusa, but also its most serious problems."
[www.spirithome.com]

JRS "his father to attend Bible school in Los Angeles at the famed Angelus Temple, founded by Aimee Semple McPherson; the Stevens family moved to California in 1929, during the Great Depression. His father completed his studies in the spring of 1933, at which time he moved the family back to Iowa and began the Christian Tabernacle church in the town of Washington. John Stevens, who had attended many of the Angelus Temple classes with his father, taught the children’s Bible study and helped prepare his father’s sermons"

[www.thelivingword.org]

I shared a link abut aimme S Mp earlier. I highly suggest research on her back ground will also answers some questions on waht I am convinced is that jrs did not have an origional "revelation" on his own.

Use the url to read the full enlightening articles . Show hos the deception unfolded.

I met Jrs in Washinton, Iowa for the first time when he visited and guest preached around 1957 or 1958. I was 7 or 8 years old. I feel kind of heart broken that I believed so many lies. Around '63 the open bible on the podium scripture reading changed.

puddington Wrote:
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> Ah yes, I have platform memories of Earth shoes
> and Binaca.


Ahhh...., Binaca, I wonder if they still sell that stuff. It was sort of like TLW “holy water”.

Binaca! LOL I have no idea. But I'm not around anyone any more who dumps it on thier tongue after finishing up left over communion Wine..evvn the unopened bottles.

Don't remember the Binaca, but I doubt the CTLW band or shepherds would bother these days. Do other churches have a bar? Not sure, just checking.



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> Do other churches have a bar? Not sure, just
> checking.

That alone should give TLWF a competitive edge against other churches. I think they need to be more aggressive in getting the word out.

"Our church has a bar. Does yours?"
(possible church sign)

changedagain Wrote:
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> That alone should give TLWF a competitive edge
> against other churches. I think they need to be
> more aggressive in getting the word out.
>
> "Our church has a bar. Does yours?"
> (possible church sign)

You know, they really should advertise that on the website. Along with, anything goes here, as long as you worship the leader. Or have money. Or both.

girls_turn_it_off Wrote:
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> Haha yeah us ex-YASPers have a way of picking up
> on insider info and disseminating it quickly.
> Based on the photos Silvana's been posting on
> Facebook, she's probably received the "word" or
> "revelation" or "impartation" yada yada. It will
> be interesting to see how the congregation will
> respond or whether there will be a wedding. Will
> Silas gift them a honeymoon chateau at Monte Zion?
> Will Silvana's son change his name to Hargrave?
> Maybe Silvana will walk down the aisle to "Eye of
> the Tiger"? Only time will tell...

Looks promising, huh. Check out TLWF's updated marquee.

"Anger management classes postponed till Gary's wedding."