Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: April 23, 2023 06:10AM
A few posts from Nov.--Dec., 2018:
Posted by: NavyVet79
Date: November 14, 2018 09:42PM
Yeah, from the get-go it was a bit of a set up. Marilyn? I wonder if she even realized it or if she honestly believed that she was doing something noble? Kind of makes me wonder what these complicit "men of God" are expecting once they meet their real God? But as one of you all pointed out, they sold it & we bought it. I am just sorry we didn't have the awareness of the abusive shitstorm going on.
As for how he made people wobble and fall? I understand that JRS had an extensive library section on witchcraft ostensibly for being able to recognize it. Yeah, right. I have a bridge I would like to sell you too! C'mon, for Pete's sake. Hits, sending balls in the spirit, praying for someone to die, throwing off things. What in the hell are these if not witchcraft? Kinda looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck. . .
Posted by: changedagain
Date: November 15, 2018 08:44AM
> I am just sorry
> we didn't have the awareness of the abusive
> shitstorm going on.
That's a common regret in this forum. To the moderator's credit, he intervenes to make sure we don't become weighed down with self-criticism. Often those motivated to exploit others have more sophisticated tactics than those that become their prey. Like others here, I've gone through the list of what constitutes a cult, and every single one applies to TLWF. While I was immersed in it I was too busy attending services, working at the facilities and ministries' homes & running a small company to support my family with the hope of enabling my kids to attend & graduate from college (not ones sanctioned by TLWF, BTW), which they did. This workload served to cloud my awareness of what was really going on. I had dropped out of a reputable university my junior year to devote myself to bringing forth the Kingdom. I'm sure part of the inspiration for doing this was the realization that according to John's 'vision' in 1972, the Kingdom would be arriving in 1979. What's the point of obtaining a silly degree then? Time for the thousand prophets to get busy binding and loosing, and loosing and binding. I had to be one of them!
Yes, there were fun times in TLWF. But only because many of the people possessed a kindness and a basic decency not found in most of the leadership. While you're goofing around you're not having to worry about being stabbed in the back. Well, that happened once, but I prefer not to dwell on it ;)
p.s. in retrospect, I think "The Abusive Shitstorm" would have made an apt This Week title. I'm not sure what graphics would be used to illustrate the point of the message. That's not my forte.
Posted by: Walked
Date: December 26, 2018 07:01PM
I can't stop thinking about the collective THOUSANDS OF YEARS of people's lives that were stolen by deception. How much did we all forfeit for this masquerade? How many didn't take a certain job, go to school, move to a more desirable location, marry a love, have a child, maintain contact with family, or use their time for profit instead of giving it freely? On a basic level, I think about what I could've done with the thousands of hours I spent in services and traveling to them! How many are irreparably wounded by the revelation that their entire belief system was based on the lies and plagiarism of a narcissistic con artist and his conniving wife? It sickens me that beautiful hearts were used and disposed of. I also can't stop thinking about how widespread the truth of the con was. Did JRS "compose" his sermons and run them by Marilyn as they laughed about how real they sounded? Did Gary and Marilyn acknowledge to each other that they both knew they were con-artists, or was it an unspoken thing between them? How many of the higher-up shepherds were in on this? This part is driving me crazier than the deception itself. Did they laugh as they saw the tithes roll in and they purchased their next airline flight or home? Or did they silently watch the blind sheep give and bleed without even acknowledging to each other that they all knew it was an eternal lie? I'd give a lot to hear an off-the-record conversation between JRS and Marilyn, or Marilyn and Gary. I hope there is a God, and that the sin that the CTLW founder and his minions committed is the most unforgivable.