Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: January 12, 2020 07:11PM

N O R T H g

"Every day I become more of myself. More innocent but not naive."

These are extremely important statements, given the fact that 'cult-ure' attempts to stifle the voice of our SELF, as well as piling on guilt for good measure. Much of this is done in the 'name of the Lord', which is why our CREATOR is the victim of a lot of bad press.

Regaining our voice is to regain our POWER, enabling us to be far more discriminative in deciding what we believe to be TRUE. Throwing off the 'shackles of guilt' that had been laid upon us is one of the most important applications of our regained POWER.

Our 'LOVE b.s.meter' starts to come on-line, allowing us hold at bay anything that does not come with the 'KISS of HEAVEN'.

Keep on, keepin' o n . . .

(P.S. Welcome B A N J O)

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kbyrne ()
Date: January 13, 2020 06:59AM

In my search for a good therapist, I found this on a website:


CULTS

"Cults are close-knit and often secretive organizations that may recruit members through false premises, such as the promise of religious salvation. Although not all cults are religious, most subscribe to a particular belief system unique to their organization and do not permit members to deviate from their strictures. Members who wish to break free of a cult often have difficulty doing so and may experience psychological effects after leaving.

UNDERSTANDING CULTS
People who join cults often do so from a basic desire to belong to something, to feel protected and secure, and to live a life that has meaning. Cults that are based on tenets of Christianity can fulfill this longing in some people, as the promise of eternal salvation is the primary draw for many adults who join cults.

When recruiting new members, cults often discern a need in a person and promise to satisfy it, whether the need is religious fulfillment, political activism, self-actualization, or simply a sense of belonging. Those who are most likely to be recruited by a cult tend to come from an economically sound background, be educated and idealistic, and exhibit above-average intelligence.

Cults tend to be led by a charismatic and compelling leader who demands loyalty. Because cults require absolute commitment to their leader and discourage questioning of the belief system set forth, often using manipulative, exploitative, or abusive tactics to prevent and punish dissent, they are generally considered to be destructive and controlling by outsiders. In fact, cult members may adhere to the doctrine to the point of cutting off family and friends who are not also part of the cult.

Potential members are usually not aware of the extent of the cult’s beliefs before entering and only realize the totalitarian structure, abuse of members, and other harmful practices after joining. However, by that point, a person may be so committed to the cult’s promises that he or she becomes able to accept beliefs and practices he or she would have rejected before joining the cult, especially upon seeing other members obey without question."

GOOD THERAPY
[www.goodtherapy.org]

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: January 13, 2020 07:47AM

Thanks for that, kbyrne. This rings true about TLWF.

On the "abusive tactics to prevent and punish dissent...", I remember so many special services when we were told that a person who had previously been in favor was now a " nephilim". It was scary. The obvious message was "don't get out of line or you're next!" So wrong.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: FCSLC ()
Date: January 13, 2020 08:36AM

and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s god entitle them ------------ I don’t recall these words in any of TLWF’s manuals, sermons or This Weeks. Too much “jeopardy” for leadership inasmuch as the ordinary people might get rebellious inklings involving “self-sovereignty” and thereby declare independence from management.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: January 13, 2020 10:47AM

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Posted by: FCSLC
Date: January 12, 2020 05:36PM

and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s god entitle them ------------ I don’t recall these words in any of TLWF’s manuals, sermons or This Weeks. Too much “jeopardy” for leadership inasmuch as the ordinary people might get rebellious inklings involving “self-sovereignty” and thereby declare independence from management


True, FCSLC. Independence and independent spirits were considered "rebellious".



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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: January 13, 2020 11:38AM

Viva la revolution!

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: January 13, 2020 03:35PM

F C S L C

WELCOME back.

As has been mentioned before, one of the greatest disservices done to all was that our own 'walk with GOD' was replaced with JRS' walk with GOD, and all the baggage that went along with it, including rampant hypocrisy, double-standards, sexual and substance abuse, financial improprieties, etc.

We failed to heed the warning 'call no man father', and exchanged our dependence on SPIRIT for dependence on flesh.

Never again.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: January 14, 2020 04:07AM

changedagain Wrote:Date: January 02, 2020 11:32AM
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> Cloudwatcher Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Well, we've got each other's back here. And I as
> far as I can tell, there is not one Judas
> among us. I think I know where he can be found,
> though :)

Hold on here, about not "one" Judas. Betrayal was Judas's job to do. He had to ID Jesus or else the whole crucifixion of the one an donly Jesus Christ would not have taken place. He was predestined by God to be a tattletale.

I used to think that Judas was really bad. But, I think Jesus trusted him the most - Sorry, about getting religious or unorthodox here. But, now I embrace being a tattletale. Who all wants to play the part of Judas, please stand up with me? No one will be hanging themselves after the job of revealing the truth is done.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: January 14, 2020 04:40AM

changedagain Wrote:December 22, 2019 01:33AM
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> True, Cloudwatcher. It is sad.
>
> 'You’ll Worry Less About What People Think of
> You When You Realize How Seldom They Do'

>
> This adage certainly applies to Hargrave. Even
> when feigning concern and backing a gesture of
> goodwill--such as the authorized 'Thinking of You'
> pre-printed birthday cards sent out years ago--it
> is but a hollow effort. If he is reaching out to
> people now, it's most likely to support his need
> to counter the flood of truthful allegations that
> have surfaced online by ex-members of the church...

Grandma's used to send birthday cards with money tucked inside. If Hargraves really cared enough to send the very best and if they really had any revelation he would be sending "thinking of you cards' with rent money or refunds tucked inside...I'll wager a prophesy, "not going to happen."

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: January 14, 2020 05:05AM

Onion Wrote: December 31, 2019 05:04AM
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> I just posted this on FaceBook but wanted to post
> it here as well:
>
> I have posted over the previous year information
> about the exposure of the church group I was
> involved in for 40+ years. New people continue to
> come forward with new stories and details of
> horrors committed by the leadership of The Living
> Word Fellowship of churches. And yet I know there
> are still huge areas of darkness where people are
> either afraid to come forward or are hiding
> themselves or because they continue to support the
> leaders/perpetrators.
>
> At the same time we have seen the highest level of
> mass killings based on race and religion in the
> U.S. in 2019. Here is an excerpt of a book I am
> reading. Without comparing the degree of crime or
> horror and certainly without minimizing the
> holocaust that is the subject of this book, in
> your mind substitute the words "Third Reich" and
> "genocide" for the horrors being described by
> victims of serial murder based on race/religion
> and serial sexual assault perpetrated in the
> church I belonged to (TLWF).
>
> Accepting the truth is part of putting a stop to
> it.
>
> The Holocaust by Bullets – Father Patrick Desbois
> Quoting pages 61-62 from Ch. VIII Accepting The
> Truth
>
> In my experience, the most difficult part of
> discovering and gaining personal knowledge of
> genocide is accepting the truth about what
> happened. To know all the details while at the
> same time being able to continue to live a full
> life, without forgetting or hiding what one knows
> about the past.
>
> It is no longer a question of getting stuck with
> certain impressions, of feeling sick, or worse, of
> remaining immobilized with terror. Terror is part
> of the strategy of those who commit genocide.
> Like predators, the create ways of petrifying
> their victims before killing them. When the
> Jewish victims got off the trains onto the
> Judenrampe, between Auschwitz and Birkenau, they
> were terrified. When the family of a kolkhoze Jew
> was suddenly taken to the edge of an irrigation
> well 70 meters deep to be thrown into it, they
> were paralyzed with fear. Terror can be generated
> by the sole mention of genocide, by the reading of
> a book on the subject, or at seeing archival
> images of it, or on visiting a former
> concentration camp.
>
> If, sixty years later, we allow ourselves to be
> terrified as well, though, we are allowing the
> people of the Third Reich, who perpetrated
> genocide, an additional victory. Terror can
> immobilize thought and awareness, and hinder the
> ability to remain responsible, confrontational,
> and strong in front of the perpetrators of
> genocide.
>
> The perpetrators are like serial killers, only
> they operate on a much larger scale, at a national
> or continental level. They certainly are not
> terrified, and they know that most people cannot
> and do not want to think of the possibility of an
> act of genocide. Ordinary people want to sleep,
> and the simple thought of genocide can prevent an
> ordinary person from sleeping. The perpetrators
> of genocide bank on this to set up mechanisms for
> mass killing in all tranquility: No one will be
> able to conceive, hence accept and want to
> believe the truth.


Onion, what you have shared is so valuable to us. I can only add one thing. The threat of death; the threat of torture; the threat of starvation; the threat of rape of ourselves or our children is all about Power and Control over other human beings.

Psychology 101 taught us about Pavlov's dogs salivating when they heard a bell. We who listened to the Living Word were trained like Pavlov's dogs to "salivate" when we heard certain things. We learned to live in fear of missing out on th kingdom on Earth - fear of genocide/ extermination.

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