Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: March 08, 2019 01:02PM
" heal together and love the new day", that is what this forum has provided and methinks, for all those that post, that there are a vast many more that are attending to your voices but remain silent but do listen. and perhaps those most hurt will come to terms of how to turn. did not hargraves suggest that each church will be able to determine their own course? so why not do it? each congregation fight it out among themselves to determine their allegiance. allegiance to a demagogue, completely averse to the dictates of their acclaimed faith or an acknowledgement of the moral, ethical and spiritual demands of one's christian faith? perhaps the posit is a false dichotomy, perhaps not at all. should it not be that the demands of one's faith completely mirror the most obvious truths of that faith? is not many of the central tenets of the christian faith is the embracing of truth, of honesty, of disinvestment of worldly goods, of humility and caring about others as you care about yourself? life has brought to my becoming an agnostic at this point in my life but the central tenets of the christian life which i just posed have never left me but rather have informed me every step of my life and i need give credit that a large part of that "informing" was due to my involvement in the lw church. i understand steinback's "east of eden", etc. better.
i digress - illuminate me, where does hargrave demonstrate those central tenets - embracing of truth, honesty, humility, divestment of worldly goods (hah, what a laugh and some of you contributed to a frigging, expensive table for marilyn, the queen of gods), caring about others!!!!!!!!? what i am i missing here? what is wrong with this picture? i, an unprofessing christian, a deplorable agnostic embraces these near timeless truths, these wonderful precepts on how to live a moral and ethical life, which i supremely wish to do and surprisingly do so to a far greater extent, i believe, than hargrave does. hargrave writes books about the faith and i, have left that faith. ironically, that faith and its tenets beat inside my moral heart every day and i do so relish that my life was graced with the instructions of that faith. i believe that i, an agnostic but much influenced by christian tenets, am vastly more christian than gary hargrave. i do not build up treasures on earth on the back of tithes, i have never protected sexual abusers, i never would had dumped a wife and children in exchange for the allure of a whore of babylon (sorry, she is not the mother of god or the kingdom) and the potential riches to be reaped (which apparently they have been) by duping a buttload of the trusting and unsuspecting.
to those trusting who read this and other posts on this forum, you can no longer be unsuspecting. it is all "out there, out here" for you. and it is for you to alert others about this forum and then for them to make their own decision/s. i hope congregants of lw to divest of their association with the lw, form your own congregation and if your "leaders" are in objection, then throw them to the cesspool (i was going to say "to the wolves", but they are too beautiful of creatures to be associated with hargrave, minions and hanger-ons). it is not about the past, it is about the integrity of own's soul in the here and now