Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: February 24, 2019 03:46AM

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puddington

Yes. And I recall that the Blix girls in the 70’s & 80’s were taught to “get Marilyn’s thinking”. Because she had the “mind of Christ”. To think like her, was to think like God.

I’m not kidding. I heard this doctrine myself.

I remember, too, puddington. I don't think that I would have lasted long at Blix House. Good thing that I was never "invited" to live there. Don't worry, though. I had my own cross to bear.

Anyone remember when all male ministries had to "marry" or pledge allegiance to Marilyn? Mystifying! How does one actually come to think of themselves as so supremely perfected? How about substituting her name for God's name in worship songs? Astounding!

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Onion ()
Date: February 24, 2019 06:01AM

Puddington & Reep - I was one of the Blix Girls who was taught how to think like Marilyn. In fact, I was so good at it that it was often a job assigned to me to teach others how to think like her.

She was our example of how to relate correctly to "the Apostle."

This part of my history in the walk/cult is part of the reason why I am so committed to revealing everything I've ever seen or heard and helped hide, and to speak the truth to every lie I participated in.

But I also must admit I was terribly naive. If I had been analyzed back in those days I think I would have been a textbook example of extreme denial. I stayed at the Stevens' home every week when JRS would go away to wait on the Lord. His wife, Martha, didn't like being in the house alone so while JRS was gone (and Marilyn would be gone at the same time from the Blix House), I was on duty. I believed that JRS and Marilyn were both holy and pure. I believed Marilyn was being JRS' secretary as the revelation flowed. I talked myself into believing this because to believe otherwise would have meant I was participating in their adultery and wrongdoing.

I eventually grew up. In counseling I was told that because I had come into the church from a wildchild background and believed becoming a Christian meant I lived a completely different lifestyle, that I believed those who were already Christians were also living or doing their best to live a sin-free lifestyle. Like I said, naivity and denial are a heady cocktail.

AMOS - I identified completely with what you had to say. Something I have had to work on in great detail is understanding the gifts I was given from God in the context of listening to whom I can only now call a false prophet. God is good and faithful to us all. And the walk definitely knew how to draw in high quality people. Thank God so much good came out of the relationships of the sincere members of the church who were really only interested in having a walk with God and living in His Presence.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Richard M. ()
Date: February 24, 2019 07:09AM

Okay, I am digesting the last two pages here and will address a little more of Marilyn's comments and rationale about the use of "men." While it has always been clear to me, I see its been a question for some others . . .

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Richard M. ()
Date: February 24, 2019 08:54AM

First, this … then I’ll try to answer other more specific comments:

During the last two years of our marriage, and ultimately my wasted time at trying to save it by attending more church meetings at her insistence, Marilyn directly expounded on the status of men in the church as being useful only for the "spiritual leadership" of the family. She cited some passage as source. Anything else was incidental. After one two-hour discussion at our front door as I was leaving to work at Foothill station, and that made me late, I again explained to her that anything that I could taste, feel, see and if it protected our family, I'd already embraced it. And while the conversation was devoid of anything unpleasant or argumentative, it made no difference. She just said as I was leaving, "You don't love god enough." So, I had and still have no doubt that her unbridled drive to fulfill herself found her doing and saying anything to cement it, no matter who or what it hurt. It was obvious then and more evident now from the credible, confirming history shared on these pages, that while Stevens and maybe others in the church may have found her alluring, convincing or thought they had used conniving or “biblical” means to win her or her friendship, how really foolish and naïve it was. For me, she apparently gained more of what she jealously wanted at the loss of what she already in honesty had. But I never then or now hated her. In an uneasy transition, she just became someone I didn’t know . . . . just consider that both Stevens and Hargrave were only tools and never understood how they were just used . . . . at least from this human’s ancient view of the past , , ,

Regards,

Dick

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: February 24, 2019 09:10AM

Thanks for sharing this insight, Dick.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: puddington ()
Date: February 25, 2019 02:04AM

Agree. Dick, we can’t thank you enough!

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Onion ()
Date: February 25, 2019 03:54AM

Holy Moly - The puzzle pieces just keep dropping for us. Thanks Dick - I really appreciate knowing details that help sweep away every last vestige of doubt as to what was really going on, all along.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Reepicheep ()
Date: February 25, 2019 04:36AM

Dick, thank you. You confirmed my suspicions of what I felt about "the intercessors" being told that they were much more important to JRS than the elders in the church. It really was an alternate universe.



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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Richard M. ()
Date: February 25, 2019 06:26AM

Reepicheep Wrote:
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puddington
>
> Yes. And I recall that the Blix girls in the 70’s
> & 80’s were taught to “get Marilyn’s thinking”.
> Because she had the “mind of Christ”. To think
> like her, was to think like God.
>
> I’m not kidding. I heard this doctrine myself.
>
>
> I remember, too, puddington. I don't think that I
> would have lasted long at Blix House. Good thing
> that I was never "invited" to live there. Don't
> worry, though. I had my own cross to bear.
>
> Anyone remember when all male ministries had to
> "marry" or pledge allegiance to Marilyn?
> Mystifying! How does one actually come to think of
> themselves as so supremely perfected? How about
> substituting her name for God's name in worship
> songs? Astounding!

Remember, I knew Marilyn very well and in many ways from the time she was sixteen until our divorce. I would pick up our kids at the Blix house but never went in, waiting at the curb. One time, after returning the kids from a trip to Lion Country, she was waiting outside near the curb, and scolded me for being 10 minutes late. I wasn't. . . . I doubt that many knew that Marilyn had been great at playing the Hawaiian guitar, but wouldn't play it for just anyone. I don't know if she ever did at church or anywhere else.
As for her "thinking" herself "perfection," early on she had been embarrassed and even upset whenever someone complimented her on her looks in public. That must have changed, apparently using it as some springboard to a power over others. I never saw it, and contrary, she had been mostly the opposite . . . .

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Richard M. ()
Date: February 25, 2019 07:29AM

NancyB, so, you said, "I'm just an old RN and psycho thriller novelist- what do I know, either? Perhaps, owners of DNA that left deposited in all the wrong places might start shaking in their boots at minimum."

Good for you. What most don't know, before my 30 years on the LAPD, my 4 years in the Air Force found me graduated from its medical school at Gunter, Alabama, as a Medical Service Specialist, then trained in surgery, emergency room and other hospital departments but primarily assigned to OB, assisting with deliveries, handling, cleaning and medicating newborns, and later, schooled at a major Miami hospital with doctors from our and other countries in the care and treatment of premature infants.

And a "novelist?" Fill me in . . ..That's a whole different educational experience.

Regards,

Dick

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