Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Prettyboy ()
Date: February 02, 2019 04:30PM

to kboy and little red flag,

why didn't you come visit me in iowa this week? spare bedroom all made up!

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Prettyboy ()
Date: February 02, 2019 04:49PM

kboy,
i did not stoke the furnace but i did blow on my embers, crawled out of the caboose and climbed out of a self-imposed timeout corner for unintended gaffes i recently committed on this forum. again, thank you for your recent feedbacks to me; i took them in earnest and hope i have regained your trust in what i post. affectionately, prettyboy

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: February 02, 2019 06:45PM

PRETTYboy:

No problemo, senor.


* * * * *

Please correct me if I have it wrong, but was 2018 the FIRST year since 1990 (Amphitheater 'christening') that Shiloh did NOT have a 4th of July fireworks show? They must have already sensed the shitstorm heading their way and began to run and take cover.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: February 02, 2019 11:35PM

Prettyboy-

Oh, so sorry. We ended up staying here in the unfrozen section of the country. Was going to text to see if you could still type, but got distracted. Apparently you have survived - glad to hear. Carry on!

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Onion ()
Date: February 03, 2019 02:37AM

NancyB - Thank you for your post about Marilyn. Every time someone remembers their reaction to her as negative, it helps strip away another layer of my own conditioning. Marilyn was the person who "love bombed" me most when I came in the walk/cult. We had things in common like designing and sewing our own clothes so we could relate on a personal level. When I became a regular, I sat with Marilyn and Bessie in services. I didn't see her meanness until the 80's and by then I was so ingrained that I never saw the problem as hers, but as mine for being so screwed up that I needed her tough stance with me.

This part of my story has not been told. It is hard to speak of because of the pain it dredges up but I am also ashamed and embarrassed.

When I started law school, I was afraid I wouldn't sleep for 4 years and a friend referred me to a wonderful therapist. My goal of working with her was to learn relaxation and self-hypnosis/meditation so I could sleep at night instead of having dreams that jerked me awake in the middle of the night. Of course, the therapy went much more deeply.

My therapist, Evelyn, had me look in the mirror and tell her 10 things I liked about myself and 10 things I wanted to change. As I stared in the mirror at myself, I was horrified/mortified to realize I had no thoughts of my own. Every thought that came into my head both about what I liked and didn't like about myself, was in my brain as "JRS said this..." "Marilyn said this...". At that moment I had no ability to describe what I thought about anything because I was deeply and completely programmed not to think for myself.

Of course this was a huge red flag but I still interpreted it as my failing and never allowed myself to think it was "done to me." Here was a classic example of complete mind control but God forbid that I would call it that back then.

I worked on this and started enjoying the process of finding my own thinking about myself. But 4 years later when it was time for me to take the Bar exam (3 full days of the hardest bar exam in the country) I contacted Marilyn and asked her if I could wear her ring to the exam. She gave me one of her turquoise rings that I had seen her wear many times. During the examination, I was wearing her ring and a bracelet JRS had given me years earlier when he brought presents home for all of us at the Blix House from a Brazil trip. When I would get ready to open that test book and take the exam, I would hold on to the ring and the bracelet and chant in my mind "I am Marilyn. They deserved to be in that room taking that exam but I didn't. They were smart enough to pass that exam. I wasn't.

By the time I got the results that I had passed the Bar on the first try, I had some pride for my own accomplishment but in the back of my brain I always thought of it as JRS' victory, not mine, even though he had been dead for almost 10 years.

When I worked with JRS and his lawyers on his divorce from Martha over ten years earlier, I did the financial accounting and appeared on JRS' behalf (so he wouldn't have to) at every settlement conference and every lawyer meeting that he would sometimes attend too, along with Marilyn. During one of these meetings, JRS gave me "the word" to go to law school AND to get my CPA license. I never pursued the CPA part because it was just too much.

I never wanted to become a lawyer. I wanted to work with animals. I was looking into veterinarian school at the time G&M reminded me of the word to become a lawyer. So that's what I did.

Although I began edging away from involvement with the walk/cult in the early 00's, I still had not connected the dots that the church was a cult. I finally made that cut (as in cutting it out of me) beginning in late 2014 and completely in 2016. It was terribly devastating to realize what I had surrendered myself to. Everything in my life that I saw as a product of the walk/cult became disgusting to me. Including being an attorney. I sat with that for a while. Here I was in my mid-60's looking back at a life wasted (my devastation opinion). I couldn't go back and live my 40 years over in my 60's.

I looked at everything I thought and did in and for the walk/cult and the only thing I could think of to do at that time was stop being a lawyer. There are more details involved in my choice to be disbarred and there is a record of two complaints against me. I happened to work in areas of law that garner the most complaints - family law and bankruptcy. Both complaints would have been easy to defeat and "make go away" because one was silly - a client saying I didn't do any work on her case when I had a 3" file and happy correspondence from her and another client who never paid the filing fee on his case.

But I knew if I just "resigned" or "retired" from the practice of law, I would probably not stick to it because I would be in a situation where it would be better for me to be a lawyer. I also knew that if I did what I was considering, TLWF people would come after me with the threat of disbarment. So I took care of it.

And then I started doing the only thing I could think of that would add some value back in to the 40+ years of service in the cult: tell everything I know, shed light on some hidden information, and tell the truth.

That decision was very difficult. But when I finalized my plans, I felt as proud of that decision as I was about passing the California Bar the first time (yes, I finally started giving myself the credit). And I knew from then on, that the distraction of retaliation would have no hold on me and I could move forward.

Then I discovered this forum and found so many people I had known and loved for years who were free of the cult/walk and getting freer every day. Just like me. At that time I knew Rick Holbrook was a slime but I only suspected that he was "inappropriate" with young women until people started communicating with me back channel about just how bad he really was.

I am more proud of what I have accomplished as "Onion" than of anything I accomplished before. I still hit quicksand of pain and conditioning and have to work through it but every day is more joyful and hopeful and what more can one ask.

I am so thankful to this forum, to Rick Ross, to all of you who read our posts and all of you who write posts. The exposure may continue on for decades but we have gained so much ground and each of us should be grateful and proud of that accomplishment.

Boo Yah.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: February 03, 2019 05:16AM

ONION:


'Born for such a time as this' comes to mind when referring to a 'life wasted'.

Just like Deep Throat with Watergate in the Nixon years, you are our Deep Throat, privy to back room dealings within this insidiousness organization that few have ever witnessed.

Our lives come in chapters, some long, short, happy, and sad, with the chapter you are now experiencing being the one that will vindicate all those that went before it.

As Shalom kicked things off with 'Shalom-oshima' (borrowed from a friend), you will eventually assist in pounding the last nails in the coffin that will finally bury what should have been carried out 'feet-first' so many years ago.

H.O.L.D.F.A.S.T. Brighter days are still ahead.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: February 03, 2019 05:49AM

Onion - I have more to say, but because I’m on my phone I’m not going to right now.

What I will say is that I wish you would also post this on the new forum too. There are different people on each of these forums. We all need to see each other in the light we truly are - including you, post walk.

Thank you for bravely getting it all out there. Love you.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Amos ()
Date: February 03, 2019 06:30AM

Onion Wrote:
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> NancyB -
>
> I never wanted to become a lawyer. I wanted to
> work with animals. I was looking into
> veterinarian school at the time G&M reminded me of
> the word to become a lawyer. So that's what I
> did.
>
Based on what you have written, perhaps you did get to work with animals — just not the barnyard kind ...

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: JesusJesusJesus ()
Date: February 03, 2019 08:03AM

Onion - not sure where you are in your faith or if the Bible brings you any comfort at all, but I feel very strongly that the work you are doing is a true example and act of repentance - turning away from wrong and to right. I can't imagine how painful your process must be, but I feel confident that the Biblical promises that come with repentance (fruitfulness[Mt. 3:8], refreshing [Acts3:19], life [Acts 11:8], no regret [2 Cor. 7:10], and forgiveness for yourself and from others [Luke 17:3]) will come as a result of your decision to leave wrong behind and do right. I hope you are encouraged and know what a source of strength you are to many, many people.

Also, (forget who it was who asked) - Eva Bickart is alive, living in Washington, Iowa still, and has her mental faculties, and 2018 was the first year that Shiloh didn't have a Fourth of July show for the community, though I don't know why.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Onion ()
Date: February 03, 2019 09:22AM

JJJ - I am in a time of refreshing right now and although I still flinch sometimes when discussing Christian beliefs, I am once again finding I can look at the Bible without flinching. My belief system is not as touchy-feely as it once was, for want of a better description, but I am aware that healing is coming in for me from many directions. Thank you.

Amos - SO glad my former animal experience will not be repeated. Right now my dog and I are visiting a friends' home while they are out and taking care of my pooch Emily, two beautiful cats, and a gorgeous Conure parrot. And a feral cat who doesn't want to act like he's part of the crew but he is coming when I call so that's cool. No more human predators thank you very much.

kb & red. Thanks too. I am not as pitiful as I might have sounded in the story portion I related earlier. I am coming out of the darkness more every day and I am proud of all of us every day. The truth must be the most powerful weapon there has ever been.

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