LampShmamp Wrote:
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> Can anyone explain what the "unfolding" was? I
> have seen the term quite often, and it is often
> paired with another term which together seem to be
> walk lingo for some miraculous "spiritual" events.
> The significance of these events appears to be so
> ingrained in the culture of the group that it is
> assumed everyone agrees, accepts and understands
> it. Even though I have read the terms often in
> the past few weeks, no one has ever explained what
> in the world they are. An example would be, "Back
> during the Unfolding..." I doubt they are talking
> about laundry.

LAMPSHAMP Oh don't be so sure they weren't talking about opening a laundry business and having those dumb sheep do some unfolding.... for the monies.
I like "monies" because Mr. Crabs on Sponge-Bob calls it MONIES.

Tmason:


Your points are well taken and not restricted to just religious contexts, but extend to personality and political cults as well ('Trumpism' dare I say).

Another interesting example of a personality-cult can be seen in the Netflix movie "Chappaquiddick"--the story of Ted Kennedy and those who served the 'Kennedy mystic' in spite of the truth--all except one. (No spoiler alert here.)

kBOY Wrote:
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> WALK TALK
>
>
If it hasn't already been brought up, "getting a revelation," or "needing a revelation," something I remember being told more than once when I didn't understanding something. Particularly when it came to G&M, "You don't understand because you don't have a revelation."

Here’s another vague one:

“Break in your spirit”


As in “that person needs to go seek God until they break in their spirit”.

Or “you need to spank that child until they break in their spirit”.

kBOY – A few more terms (Feel free to alter the definitions)
“Free Apostle and a dead Jezebel” - Prayer for Martha (John’s wife) to die so he could marry Marilyn
“Breakthrough” – An imaginary new spiritual level where nothing outwardly changes but you still convince yourself to feel good about it.
“Upward flow” – Preparing meals, cleaning house, and mowing the grass of your leader’s home while pretending they are God.
“Position thinking” – Falsely imagining you matter as much to God as your leader does.
“Opening your spirit” - New Age technique to make you more vulnerable to brain washing.
“Shepherd” - One who does exactly what G&M tells them to do, no matter how destructive it is to other people in their church.
“Old level” – Doing the same thing, the same way, and getting the same result - nothing.
“New level” – An imaginary utopia where doing the same thing, the same way, finally produces something of value.
“Seeing in the spirit” – Spacing out and looking down on everyone else. A valuable technique in helping you recognize your world dominance.
“Drinking from other fountains” – Reading material or attending churches other than TLWF.
“Babylon” – Any church or business not associated with TLWF.
“Little people” – Anyone in TLWF not in a leadership role.
“Oneness” – Obeying the leadership of TLWF. Other Christians are not part of the oneness.
“Shepherd’s Library” – Tapes where TLWF leadership reveal why they had to lie about what they were really up to. (e.g. Our real goal is to get everyone connected and obedient to Marilyn – something we can’t really put on the sign out front. Until people are properly brainwashed, we can’t risk the possibility of them recognizing we are up to no good.)

During the unfolding and the unwrapping there was a strong focus on the Third Generation and how they should direct how things are to be done, seen, organized, worshipped, etc. There resulted a kind of harsh "moving over" or "passing the baton" directed at the second generation (which includes people who came into the walk in the 70's who had been slaves to JRS and Marilyn for many years by that time). I believe the unfolding referenced the unfolding of the revelation of the third generation and the relationships. Tami and Rick and others of their friends and family were in Hawaii for all or most of the unfolding. The unwrapping started as the third generation began unwrapping JRS so he could be free etc.

Several people who were behind the scenes with JRS and Marilyn and others relate a time in Hawaii where JRS and Marilyn fought loudly and regularly and times where JRS contacted people on the other Islands and had them pick him up from the airport where he had fled to get away from Marilyn and where he is quoted as saying Marilyn was worse than Martha ever was.

Very instrumental in the third generation were Tami Pfeifer Holbrook, her brothers, Rick and his whole crew, and then tagging along were anyone in that age group (born in the late 50's and 60's). The third generation started falling apart when Rick abandoned his first wife to begin his affair with Shannon who he roped in by telling her it was what JRS wanted or "would have wanted." JRS was already feeling the effects of cancer in 1982 and by January 1983 he was very ill. Tami was there every possible minute to help Marilyn and to make sure JRS had anything he needed. Rick was rarely around (RARELY) and of course we learned later that he was already in his relationship with soon to be wife #2.


I don't remember much if any focus on the third generation after that. Hopefully, a lot of them left to pursue everything life had to offer. Definitely there was an exodus out after JRS passed and the G&M pairing became evident.


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Note for the WTF category: Sources say Rick Holbrook is already cheating on Lorena. Apparently the new woman is not in the church. I don't know if that means she was never in the church. If he follows his standard practice, a divorce and remarriage should follow. I don't know what ploy he is using to get women outside of the church to respond to him. He may have a lot of money inherited from his mom or saved during all the years he got paid at TLW and did nothing. Who knows. If, however, the new woman is not related to the church at all, I would think his number will be up much more quickly than it was in the church and hopefully he has no way to avoid those consequences, especially if he continues to start with women who are underage.

Just saying...

Oh boy. The pattern continues. But I don't think I should point it out, because that could be indicative of having a "religious spirit." No one wants that label!

#NoPharisees #NoSadducees #BindtheCriticalSpirit



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kBOY Wrote:

> Another interesting example of a personality-cult
> can be seen in the Netflix movie
> "Chappaquiddick"--the story of Ted Kennedy and
> those who served the 'Kennedy mystic' in spite of
> the truth--all except one. (No spoiler alert
> here.)

I've been meaning to watch this. Thanks kBOY.

LARRYBOBO:
PUDDINGTON:
KBYRNE:


Thanks for the additions. We have the makings of a complete foreign language.



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WALK TALK:

(Updated 12.14.18. Add, subtract, and edit at will)

APCO = Apostolic Company
Authority = Ministries claim to exercise the authority of Christ. Congregants must submit to their authority
Babylon = Any church or business not associated with TLWF
Bless = Extend hands towards someone in prayer
Bless-In = A gathering, generally in a circle (left hand over/right hand under) increasing individual blessing by virtue of the collective
Blessing Ball = Build up 'anointing' and sending the 'ball' to another
Blow Out = Someone who left TLW
Body = Body of Christ (used almost exclusively referring to TLWF)
Body-wide = including all of the the TLWF churches and members
Break your spirit = seek God until they break in their spirit
Breakthrough = An imaginary new spiritual level where nothing outwardly changes but you still convince yourself to feel good about it
Bucket with holes = someone who needs the same counseling and pep talks over and over again and never changes
Buffaloing a women = Grooming with ulterior motives
Build up your aura = Place your hands with open palm, palm toward your aura (about 8 - 12 inches away from your head) and stretch it out further so your aura grows and expands (invisibly of course).
Build wall of protection = Walk around your car, your house, your bed and hold your palms open toward the item you are surrounding and speak that you are building a wall of protection.
Coming at you = spiritual leaning you're getting on a matter being considered
Cross current = Going against the 'flow'
Cross dodger = Rebellious unsubmissive spirit
Designated Relationships = Assigned shepherding
Disciplined Spirit = Human will controls the human spirit. Set your will in submission and place your hands on your head and command your spirit to be in submission, to break a bond, to do what it's told.
Door Opener Apostle = JRS
DR = designated relationship
Drinking from other fountains = Reading material or attending churches other than TLWF
Elijah/Elisha relationship = a training/shepherding relationship, one-sided with the Elijah being completely in charge of the Elisha
Feasts = Purim/Passover/Pentecost/Tabernacles and other Jewish observances
First Fruits Apostle = JRS
Flow = The direction TLW is going
Free agent = Not under TLW authority
Free Apostle and a dead Jezebel = Prayer for Martha (John’s wife) to die so he could marry Marilyn
G&M = Gary & Marilyn Hargrave
Gary = Gary Hargrave
Get a check = Lack of confirmation - STOP sign
Getting a revelation = didn't understanding something
Getting hit = Dysfunctional on many levels
Going through it = struggling to come to grips with a testing in the spirit
Gourd = Rebellious/poisonous spirit
Jezebel spirit = Female undermining spirit
JRS = John Robert Stevens
Kingdom Businesses = Financial efforts that funnel $$$ into the 'upward flow'
Kingdom facility = Main TLW locations (Shiloh, Monte Zion, etc.)
Korah spirit = Anytime you questioned anyone in "authority"
Lamp of Israel = Marilyn Hargrave (Tramp of Israel)
Lay on of hands = pray for someone by putting hands on their head usually only done by elders or other ministries
Little people = Anyone in TLWF not in a leadership role
Living Word = as spoken by a human vessel
Losing your covering = Not being 'protected' by authority
Marilyn = Marilyn Hargrave
Marriage Check Out = Submitting relationship for approval--equally yoked
Ministry = A pastor (shepherd), elder, deacon or other set-in ministry (almost exclusively male)
Mixed multitude = Sheep & goats together
Nephilim Spirit = Satanic minion, crappy attitude
New day = nothing to see here. Move along
New level = An imaginary utopia where doing the same thing, the same way, finally produces something of value
Not controlling your spirit = Keeping yourself in submission
Old level = Doing the same thing, the same way, and getting the same result - nothing
Oneness = Obeying the leadership of TLWF. Other Christians are not part of the oneness
Opening your spirit = New Age technique to make you more vulnerable to brainwashing
Own thing = not submitting/being rebellious to authority
Probe = Invasive interrogation of the JRS era
Prophetic Proclamation / Prophecy = Speaking on behalf of God into existence
Position thinking = Falsely imagining you matter as much to God as your leader does
Rebellious Spirit = describing the "spirit" of a congregant not submissive to the authorities. Closely linked to witchcraft and Satan.
Religious Spirit = Where doctrine trumps relationship
Restricted tape = Meat for the mature
Resurrection Life = New immortal body
Seeing in the spirit = Spacing out and looking down on everyone else. A valuable technique in helping you recognize your world dominance
Sent to your room = Put on restriction for being rebellious
Set In = to designate a person to an office, usually by prayer and laying on of hands
Set Out = to put someone outside of TLWF (ex-communicate)
Shepherd = One who does exactly what G&M tells them to do, no matter how destructive it is to other people in their church
Shepherd’s Library = Tapes where TLWF leadership reveal why they had to lie about what they were really up to, e.g. our real goal is to get everyone connected and obedient to Marilyn – something we can’t really put on the sign out front. Until people are properly brainwashed, we can’t risk the possibility of them recognizing we are up to no good.
Smoke screen = Deflecting attention away from something else
Spiritual leech = Profiting off of the 'spiritual gravitas' of another
Spooking = someone who gets really involved in spirit, psychic, occult realm and sees something lingering in the spirit by everything and everyone
Submission = a doctrine whereby members of the church must ask permission in minute detail for anything they wish to do (including, but not limited to, dating, marriage, employment, residence, schooling, areas of interest, etc.
Subnouncing = Announcing something already decided upon without submitting it first
TLWF = The Living Word Fellowship
This Week = Weekly printed 'Word' pamphlets from the JRS era
Through dealing = Died, ugh!
Unequal yoke = A couple with dissimilar degrees of commitment to TLW
Upward Flow = Directing focus of activities toward Apostolic level, preparing meals, cleaning house, and mowing the grass of your leader’s home while pretending they are God
Violent Intercession = Intense storming of Heaven telling God what to do
Wait on the Lord = contemplative zoning out, definition nebulous
Walk = Our 'walk with God' (Christ in the flesh)
Wiped Out = Unable to function
Word = TLW Apostolic take on the Bible
Worship/Singing in the Spirit = Singing to the Lord in spontaneous words or tongues; hands are often raised