Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by:
changedagain
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Date: December 06, 2018 04:34AM
Some One Wrote:
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> [www.kalonanews.com]
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> This is an article about Shiloh in the salon news,
> just posted today
Good. Thanks for alerting us to this, Some One.
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> [www.kalonanews.com]
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> This is an article about Shiloh in the salon news,
> just posted today
Good. Thanks for alerting us to this, Some One.
Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by:
Some One
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Date: December 06, 2018 04:40AM
changedagain Wrote:
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> Some One Wrote:
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> [www.kalonanews.com]
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> > This is an article about Shiloh in the salon
> news,
> > just posted today
>
> Good. Thanks for alerting us to this, Some One.
Was trying to type Kalona News not "salon news" :)
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> Some One Wrote:
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> [www.kalonanews.com]
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> > This is an article about Shiloh in the salon
> news,
> > just posted today
>
> Good. Thanks for alerting us to this, Some One.
Was trying to type Kalona News not "salon news" :)
Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by:
changedagain
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Date: December 06, 2018 05:29AM
Some One Wrote:
> Was trying to type Kalona News not "salon news" :)
No problem, Some One. If you have some salon news, I would be interested in that as well.
Mike Jones
(not the rapper)
> Was trying to type Kalona News not "salon news" :)
No problem, Some One. If you have some salon news, I would be interested in that as well.
Mike Jones
(not the rapper)
Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by:
that little red flag
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Date: December 06, 2018 06:51AM
Some One
changeagain
Why are there no "like" buttons on this forum?
changeagain
Why are there no "like" buttons on this forum?
Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by:
Reepicheep
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Date: December 06, 2018 08:23AM
[en.m.wikipedia.org]
The latest incarnation of TLWF's Wikipedia page:
The Living Word Fellowship is a group of nondenominational Christian churches located in the United States, Canada, Brazil, and Mexico,[1]which stem from the Pentecostal tradition. Some disagree that the fellowship is nondenominational, instead believing it to be a form of Protestant Christianity.[2] It has sometimes been described as a new religious movement, and has been labelled a cult by the Christian countercult movement.[2][3]
The group was founded in South Gate, California, by John Robert Stevens in 1951.[4] It has been known in the past informally as "The Walk" or "This Walk," reflecting the biblical view that every Christian should have a personal walk with Jesus Christ, from I John 1:6-7.[2][4]The fellowship celebrates the Jewish Old Testament festivals, and "It believes in the inerrancy of the Scripture, in the Trinity, in Christ's saving work, and in the various gifts and ministries of the Spirit as taught by the apostle Paul."[2]
At its peak in the 1970s, the fellowship had about 100 member congregations. Its oversight was centered at Shiloh, a farm and retreat site near Washington, Iowa. Membership declined after founder Stevens' death in 1983,[3] and it now seems to comprise around ten primary churches.[1]
In November, 2018, Gary Hargrave announced his resignation following a sexual misconduct scandal taking place within the churches of the Living Word Fellowship. Hargrave published a letter from himself on the church's main website, at [www.thelivingword.org]. The church published a response regarding the sexual misconduct revelations, at [www.thelivingword.org]. ####
ReferencesEdit
^ a b Churches in The Living Word Fellowship, Living Word Fellowship website^ a b c d George D. Chryssides, Historical Dictionary of New Religious Movements, Second Edition (Lanham, Md: Scarecrow Press, 2011), 93.^ a b Another Gospel: Cults, Alternative Religions, and the New Age Movement by Ruth A. Tucker, Zondervan, 2004, ISBN 0-310-25937-1, pages 360–362^ a b A Brief History of the Living Word Fellowship, Living Word Fellowship website
Open Letter to The Living Word Fellowship Congregation
[thelivingwordfellowshipthewholetruth.org]
The Magical Christmas Caroling Truck
[www.christmascaroling.org]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/2018 08:24AM by Reepicheep.
The latest incarnation of TLWF's Wikipedia page:
The Living Word Fellowship is a group of nondenominational Christian churches located in the United States, Canada, Brazil, and Mexico,[1]which stem from the Pentecostal tradition. Some disagree that the fellowship is nondenominational, instead believing it to be a form of Protestant Christianity.[2] It has sometimes been described as a new religious movement, and has been labelled a cult by the Christian countercult movement.[2][3]
The group was founded in South Gate, California, by John Robert Stevens in 1951.[4] It has been known in the past informally as "The Walk" or "This Walk," reflecting the biblical view that every Christian should have a personal walk with Jesus Christ, from I John 1:6-7.[2][4]The fellowship celebrates the Jewish Old Testament festivals, and "It believes in the inerrancy of the Scripture, in the Trinity, in Christ's saving work, and in the various gifts and ministries of the Spirit as taught by the apostle Paul."[2]
At its peak in the 1970s, the fellowship had about 100 member congregations. Its oversight was centered at Shiloh, a farm and retreat site near Washington, Iowa. Membership declined after founder Stevens' death in 1983,[3] and it now seems to comprise around ten primary churches.[1]
In November, 2018, Gary Hargrave announced his resignation following a sexual misconduct scandal taking place within the churches of the Living Word Fellowship. Hargrave published a letter from himself on the church's main website, at [www.thelivingword.org]. The church published a response regarding the sexual misconduct revelations, at [www.thelivingword.org]. ####
ReferencesEdit
^ a b Churches in The Living Word Fellowship, Living Word Fellowship website^ a b c d George D. Chryssides, Historical Dictionary of New Religious Movements, Second Edition (Lanham, Md: Scarecrow Press, 2011), 93.^ a b Another Gospel: Cults, Alternative Religions, and the New Age Movement by Ruth A. Tucker, Zondervan, 2004, ISBN 0-310-25937-1, pages 360–362^ a b A Brief History of the Living Word Fellowship, Living Word Fellowship website
Open Letter to The Living Word Fellowship Congregation
[thelivingwordfellowshipthewholetruth.org]
The Magical Christmas Caroling Truck
[www.christmascaroling.org]
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/2018 08:24AM by Reepicheep.
Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by:
Tmason
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Date: December 06, 2018 11:20PM
NavyVet79 Wrote:
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> Question: Is anyone considering any legal
> class-action or criminal pursuits? Just curious.
> Thanks
NavyVet PM me
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> Question: Is anyone considering any legal
> class-action or criminal pursuits? Just curious.
> Thanks
NavyVet PM me
Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by:
kBOY
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Date: December 08, 2018 09:02AM
And this just in . . .
[nymag.com]
* * * * *
"Yes, many Evangelicals are among the holiest and most quietly devoted people out there. Some have bravely resisted the cult. But their leaders have turned Christianity into a political and social identity, not a lived faith, and much of their flock — a staggering 81 percent voted for Trump — has signed on."
"They have tribalized a religion explicitly built by Jesus as anti-tribal. They have turned to idols — including their blasphemous belief in America as God’s chosen country. They have embraced wealth and nationalism as core goods, two ideas utterly anathema to Christ. They are indifferent to the destruction of the creation they say they believe God made. And because their faith is unmoored but their religious impulse is strong, they seek a replacement for religion."
"This is why they could suddenly rally to a cult called Trump. He may be the least Christian person in America, but his persona met the religious need their own faiths had ceased to provide. The terrible truth of the last three years is that the fresh appeal of a leader-cult has overwhelmed the fading truths of Christianity."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2018 09:21AM by kBOY.
[nymag.com]
* * * * *
"Yes, many Evangelicals are among the holiest and most quietly devoted people out there. Some have bravely resisted the cult. But their leaders have turned Christianity into a political and social identity, not a lived faith, and much of their flock — a staggering 81 percent voted for Trump — has signed on."
"They have tribalized a religion explicitly built by Jesus as anti-tribal. They have turned to idols — including their blasphemous belief in America as God’s chosen country. They have embraced wealth and nationalism as core goods, two ideas utterly anathema to Christ. They are indifferent to the destruction of the creation they say they believe God made. And because their faith is unmoored but their religious impulse is strong, they seek a replacement for religion."
"This is why they could suddenly rally to a cult called Trump. He may be the least Christian person in America, but his persona met the religious need their own faiths had ceased to provide. The terrible truth of the last three years is that the fresh appeal of a leader-cult has overwhelmed the fading truths of Christianity."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/08/2018 09:21AM by kBOY.
Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by:
JesusJesusJesus
()
Date: December 08, 2018 12:33PM
Hey, all! New poster. Been lurking for a long time. Entered TLWF as a teenager. By the grace of God, got out fifteen or so years later before it had the chance to negatively impact my marriage and children *too* much.
I'm thinking about what resources ex-members and pastors/church members who try to support them might need. One thing I realized is that the "walk talk" is heavy, and can create some major miscommunication and misunderstanding.
So - what words or phrases would need to be included if we were to create a dictionary for the unindoctrinated, so to speak? Not just words that are used differently in the Christian world as compared to the Fellowship, but also phrases that express uniquely "Body" ideas.
And.... go!
I'm thinking about what resources ex-members and pastors/church members who try to support them might need. One thing I realized is that the "walk talk" is heavy, and can create some major miscommunication and misunderstanding.
So - what words or phrases would need to be included if we were to create a dictionary for the unindoctrinated, so to speak? Not just words that are used differently in the Christian world as compared to the Fellowship, but also phrases that express uniquely "Body" ideas.
And.... go!
Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: December 09, 2018 01:21AM
Great idea to create a dictionary of "Walk Talk" identify ways that the same
word is used one way by The Walk and other ways in the Christian world.
Its a good idea to identify Scripture passages commonly used by The Walk and how TW interpretation of these passages differs from how these same passages are interpreted by communities untainted by The Walk and untainted by authoritarianism.
"Loading the language" one of the key components of indoctrination used by a totalitarian leader. It is also how such leaders isolate followers from the outside world.
This whole article is a great read.
Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism
[culteducation.com]
word is used one way by The Walk and other ways in the Christian world.
Its a good idea to identify Scripture passages commonly used by The Walk and how TW interpretation of these passages differs from how these same passages are interpreted by communities untainted by The Walk and untainted by authoritarianism.
"Loading the language" one of the key components of indoctrination used by a totalitarian leader. It is also how such leaders isolate followers from the outside world.
This whole article is a great read.
Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism
[culteducation.com]
Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by:
JesusJesusJesus
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Date: December 09, 2018 11:20AM
Yeah - we need a dictionary. Possibly a translation device. Think Google Translate will consider including Walk Talk? :) So far the words I've come up with that I think need to be included are:
The Body -
The Word -
The Walk -
To Blow Out -
TLWF -
This Week -
APCO -
Feasts -
Nephililm Spirit -
JRS -
Gary -
Marilyn -
The Upward Flow -
Resurrection Life -
Prophetic Proclamation / Prophecy -
Violent Intercession -
You're right, though - there are a whole lot of scriptures that were just very wrongly misinterpreted, and should probably be explained to ex members and pastors as well.
The Body -
The Word -
The Walk -
To Blow Out -
TLWF -
This Week -
APCO -
Feasts -
Nephililm Spirit -
JRS -
Gary -
Marilyn -
The Upward Flow -
Resurrection Life -
Prophetic Proclamation / Prophecy -
Violent Intercession -
You're right, though - there are a whole lot of scriptures that were just very wrongly misinterpreted, and should probably be explained to ex members and pastors as well.
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