Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: July 24, 2018 01:05PM

Unapologetic Apologetic it is a pattern all cults have; keep the new ones over busy so they do not have time to think.

Years back in the old days, JRS would come to town. Service every night and late on school night. I couldn't get home work done and I was so exhausted in class. I know the same with my then future husband. His mother was his math teacher. She showed him no mercy knowing full well her child would not have rested time to do his assignment... they were "doing Gods will". "WE are god chosen people who will walk through fire and survive to enter the promised land."

I think JRS had read how to control the sheep". That pattern was passed on.. only now it may be worse...why? Because G does not want kids to have access to research other than what he wants them to believe. it is amazing what you can find on-line. Including old books I remember jr mentioning. If you read them you will see the mind control patterns that were instilled bit by bit decades ago.

As I research other religious sects, it all becomes more clear to me how the sheep are duped. i worry about the children in the future. will they be able to function when they leave?
I recently watched a film on WACO...same kinds things were happening..it was a healing eye opener for me. My healing process is like onion layers.

Think back to Nazi Germany in the early days.. they indoctrinated children. In TCOLW they are using the techniques... " prepare for the 2nd coming.' Break through the assault for the kingdom.."

In Germany step by step a little at a time...people turned their heads because it was trivial in the beginning... "for the greater good"... children began to turn in their parents for their negative talk.

There seemed to be a noble cause..."the Jews were vermin that had to be exterminated." "WE need hospital beds for your wounded warriors...make room.. get rid of the leaches on a society... the old, the disabled, the idiots" ( Not my words)...vs the Jezebels; the nephulum.. war against evil.. being 'superior race" or god's chosen.

German Doctors and nurses- good people- were systemically eased into genocide. Little bit by little bit they were pulled in to do things that they morally and ethically never would have done...one step at a time.. The excuse was to make room for the wounded... they fell into that greater good... nurses then lovingly held their patients while they administer poison. ( vs enemy assault to loose the apostle...or what ever phrases they use to "win that war".

It is heinous technique... and the propaganda use images of sweet children in the propaganda. If you can look close enough at the home school kids being pulled out to Shiloh, my gut says they are suing the same techniques. I wish I knew how to get those kids out of there. ( Are w lk leaders telling the kids and the parents that their children are 'specially chosen'?

I can apologize for being verbose, but, I won't because it feels good to express what I have figured out in my healing. if someones is questioning these are example to talk about with out comparing to the walk. The sheep who are still in really need to process and see the reality them self.

The teaching...the love bombing.. the over work instead of responsibility of school block reasonable thinking. I am afraid for any child who says "NO" I hope they just run...run away... but they can't if they see the rest of the world as the evil enemy. They do not want kids to have access to contrary information.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Tmason ()
Date: July 24, 2018 07:30PM

larry bobo Wrote:
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> puddington - Unfortunately, many others were told
> the same thing after leaving. I wonder if there
> has been any attempt by TLWF to refund offerings,
> since "true sons" would never want to receive
> dirty money from vessels of Satan. I would suggest
> that using people for personal gain as long as
> possible and then discarding them to be more the
> MO of the "true sons". The abuse is so sad and so
> destructive. Someday it will become even more
> evident where the free labor and money went. In
> the meanwhile, a few on this site and God know.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: GoingRogue ()
Date: July 24, 2018 10:08PM

Puddington, I guess that we have joined the myriad of formerly faithful sons who have magically become nephilim because we disagreed with the leaders. In response to the "you never knew the Lord" comment, I would say, "Which Lord are you speaking of?"

Larry, great idea about the tithes and offerings! Yes, the abuse is so destructive. I believe that most who have left carry a great sadness in their heart. They gave their lives for so many years because they were deviously misled. Whatever they say to us or about us, freedom is so much better.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: GoingRogue ()
Date: July 24, 2018 10:21PM

NancyB Wrote:
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> Years back in the old days, JRS would come to
> town. Service every night and late on school
> night. I couldn't get home work done and I was so
> exhausted in class. I know the same with my then
> future husband. His mother was his math teacher.
> She showed him no mercy knowing full well her
> child would not have rested time to do his
> assignment... they were "doing Gods will". "WE are
> god chosen people who will walk through fire and
> survive to enter the promised land."
>
> I think JRS had read how to control the sheep".
> . That pattern was passed on.. only now it may be
> worse...why? Because G does not want kids to have
> access to research other than what he wants them
> to believe. it is amazing what you can find
> on-line. Including old books I remember jr
> mentioning. If you read them you will see the mind
> control patterns that were instilled bit by bit
> decades ago.

NancyB, great observations. Do you by any chance remember any titles of the old books? I would be interested to see what he may have studied to help him control people. Remember he used to say, "I'm going to tell you how to think"?

Also, when you mentioned the Nazi "Super Race" it reminded me of the Manifest Sons doctrine. There sure was a whole lot of judging going on back then. We were the Chosen Ones, called to bring judgment. Yes, you're right. It does sound a lot like Nazi Germany.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/24/2018 10:25PM by GoingRogue.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Onion ()
Date: July 25, 2018 01:33AM

NancyB - I have studied Hitler and Nazis too and mainly because I wanted to know how the heck so many people could be drawn in to such evil.

As you said, the methods are the same in cult churches (and politics).

I saw a documentary on Hitler and the psychological studying he did so that when he spoke he could incite the crowds - from the way he used his hands while speaking etc.

KEY: Hitler learned that if a crowd has gathered in anticipating of a speaker, if the speaker is late, the crowd will be so charged up by the time the speaker gets there that the people in the crowd will have suspended their reasoning and ability to factually analyze what is then said by the speaker.

Sound familiar?

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: kBOY ()
Date: July 25, 2018 07:14PM

The School of Prophets – God’s Kingdom Corporation
July 20, 2018 - by Gary Hargrave

[garyhargrave.com]


B U S I N E S S

Only the business
of religion

would

reduce LOVE
to a corporation

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: July 25, 2018 09:25PM

kBOY Wrote:
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> The School of Prophets – God’s Kingdom
> Corporation
> July 20, 2018 - by Gary Hargrave
>
> [garyhargrave.com]

"Under the hierarchy of a corporate structure, human nature is able to usurp the blessing and the wealth for itself."

Is Gary finally admitting that he has ripped people off? This is a promising development.

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: GoingRogue ()
Date: July 25, 2018 10:01PM

changedagain Wrote:
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> kBOY Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > The School of Prophets – God’s Kingdom
> > Corporation
> > July 20, 2018 - by Gary Hargrave
> >
> >
> [garyhargrave.com]
>
> "Under the hierarchy of a corporate structure,
> human nature is able to usurp the blessing and the
> wealth for itself."
>
> Is Gary finally admitting that he has ripped
> people off? This is a promising development.

I suppose this new corporation will have bylaws and the Apostolic Fathering Ministry. After all, someone needs to let the School of Prophets know what they need to confirm. And to tell them what their witness is so they know how to vote. I wonder who will do that?



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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: Tmason ()
Date: July 25, 2018 10:47PM

GoingRogue Wrote:
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> changedagain Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > kBOY Wrote:
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > > The School of Prophets – God’s Kingdom
> > > Corporation
> > > July 20, 2018 - by Gary Hargrave
> > >
> > >
> >
> [garyhargrave.com]


I read this "word" and it was so clearly mumbo jumbo bullshit.
This is a cover for a business move he will make or perhaps the tax exempt status of the "corporation" is already under scrutiny by the IRS. Some cover is needed to mask the true issue or problem facing the "corporation"
Time will tell.
> >
> > "Under the hierarchy of a corporate structure,
> > human nature is able to usurp the blessing and
> the
> > wealth for itself."
> >
> > Is Gary finally admitting that he has ripped
> > people off? This is a promising development.
>
> I suppose this new corporation will have bylaws
> and the Apostolic Fathering Ministry. After all,
> someone needs to let the School of Prophets know
> what they need to confirm. And to tell them what
> their witness is so they know how to vote. I
> wonder who will do that?

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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Posted by: changedagain ()
Date: July 25, 2018 10:48PM

GoingRogue Wrote:
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> changedagain Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > kBOY Wrote:
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > > The School of Prophets – God’s Kingdom
> > > Corporation
> > > July 20, 2018 - by Gary Hargrave
> > >
> > >
> >
> [garyhargrave.com]
> >
> > "Under the hierarchy of a corporate structure,
> > human nature is able to usurp the blessing and
> the
> > wealth for itself."
> >
> > Is Gary finally admitting that he has ripped
> > people off? This is a promising development.
>
> I suppose this new corporation will have bylaws
> and the Apostolic Fathering Ministry. After all,
> someone needs to let the School of Prophets know
> what they need to confirm. And to tell them what
> their witness is so they know how to vote. I
> wonder who will do that?

Yes, a few minor details will need to be worked out!

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