GoingRogue Wrote:

> "There is, however, no prescribed level of
> participation or involvement."
>
> Unless things have changed very much in recent
> years, that statement seems like a gross
> exaggeration to me.

Yes, it is.


excerpt from 'living word'
"Lord, we love Your discipline and we receive it gratefully as sons, knowing that You love us and are delivering us from all other gods that have had dominion over us."

The first god TLWF will have to be delivered from is Gary--who has usurped God's place. God's discipline is creative, rooted in love. It's not destructive.

Steven Hassan makes bizarre claim for why Moonie brainwashing didn't work whenever scientists were in the room. This is rich.


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changedagain Wrote:
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> excerpt from 'living word'
> "Lord, we love Your discipline and we receive it
> gratefully as sons, knowing that You love us and
> are delivering us from all other gods that have
> had dominion over us."
>
> The first god TLWF will have to be delivered from
> is Gary--who has usurped God's place. God's
> discipline is creative, rooted in love. It's not
> destructive.

Is the Garies talking about "God in the Sky"? As in the God that members are ridiculed for talking to? I doubt it. Just more shepherding gobblety-gook.

FYI, Alanzo of alanzosblog endorses Independent Scientology.

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GoingRogue Wrote:
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> Is the Garies talking about "God in the Sky"? As
> in the God that members are ridiculed for talking
> to? I doubt it. Just more shepherding
> gobblety-gook.

I meant to say "talking to" not about, as in GH's prayer in changedagain's quote. Or maybe GH could be just talking to himself. Lol

G:
"Satan twists what God is doing to make it appear that our bondage is fulfillment and our deliverance is destruction."

Satan is encouraging people to stay in the church? I wish he would make up his mind. This is ridiculous.

I think we can all agree that the church of Scientology is a totally reliable source to tell us how brainwashing is fake. If you'll excuse me, I must go salute LRH now. Excelsior!

Going Rogue,

When I first starting going to Shiloh about 8 years ago, my "shepherd" strongly encouraged me to start coming to the work days on Saturdays and to find a group "to plug into" AKA work with. I showed up and was placed in housekeeping with a great bunch of ladies. But if I ever missed, I was grilled and made to feel guilty about it by my shepherd. If I didnt volunteer at functions, or other work gatherings, I was made to feel guilty about it.

They do the same with the kids there. They would pull the kids out of their homeschooling classrooms to go do various things around Shiloh. When one of them complained, saying they couldnt get their school work done because they kept getting pulled out of the classroom, they were made to feel ingrateful and disrespectful for saying something.

So, while on the surface it is true they dont "force you", they sure beat you up, put you down, and guilt trip you if you don't.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2018 06:20AM by Unapologetic Apologetic.

Unapologetic Apologetic,

Yes, the old #1 control tactic: Guilt. It's bad enough to use adults, but working the kids like that is reprehensible.

So is that how Shiloh is doing a school without having a real school now? Homeschooling classrooms? Please tell us more...

"The point of modern propaganda isn't only to misinform or push an agenda. It is to exhaust your critical thinking, to annihilate truth."
-Garry Kasparov

"Satan twists what God is doing to make it appear that our bondage is fulfillment and our deliverance is destruction."
-Gary Hargrave