Now THAT’S a true “Kingdom Proverb”!!!

FCSLC Wrote:
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> NancyB wrote: “It wa hard for me to "step out of
> owrd perfect will". The hard truth is after my
> "walk with God" was no longer personal but
> directed there was nothing spiritual aat all. It
> was all abusive”
>
> ---------------
>
> Wow. That is a “cult busting” statement
> extraordinaire.
>
>
> ----- A DIRECTED LIFE IS NOT A SPIRITUAL
> LIFE -----



FCSLC and puddington I totally agree with you about NancyB's insight.


changedagain Wrote:
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> p.s. Happy upcoming Passover!


I'll take it!

FCSLC Wrote:
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> NancyB wrote: “It wa hard for me to "step out of
> owrd perfect will". The hard truth is after my
> "walk with God" was no longer personal but
> directed there was nothing spiritual aat all. It
> was all abusive”
>
> ---------------
>
> Wow. That is a “cult busting” statement
> extraordinaire.
>
>
> ----- A DIRECTED LIFE IS NOT A SPIRITUAL
> LIFE -----
>
>
> There is a nuts & bolts truth worth pondering in
> that statement.
>
>
> Thank you

NancyB and FCSLC,

That right there is what was always missing for me while in this group. A personal relationship with Jesus. What's the point of studying the Bible and trying to please the leaders? If the end result is not knowing Jesus, it kind of missed the whole point.

GoingRogue Wrote:

> That right there is what was always missing for me
> while in this group. A personal relationship with
> Jesus. What's the point of studying the Bible and
> trying to please the leaders? If the end result is
> not knowing Jesus, it kind of missed the whole
> point.

The Christ in the Flesh doctrine perpetuated in TLWF replaced a relationship with Jesus with a relationship with leadership. In fact, the idea that an individual can have a relationship with God apart from leadership was consistently mocked in the "living word." After all these years, it's obvious that this interpretation of scripture has been way off-base and crippling to people's lives. Good riddance to these false gods!

People who worship the “God in the sky” are often ridiculed. It is the “Christ in the Flesh” that really matters to LW leadership.

puddington Wrote:
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> People who worship the “God in the sky” are often
> ridiculed. It is the “Christ in the Flesh” that
> really matters to LW leadership.

true

Girlsturnitoff:
> The other day a Living Word childhood friend of mine/former YASPer/fellow
>blow-out was traveling from Hawaii to LAX. When he arrived at the terminal he >recognized a man sitting alone at the hotel bar drinking a glass of champagne. >Low and behold it was Gary Hargrave (the Christ in the flesh)!

I bet very people in the bar recognized that Christ was in their midst--let alone offer to pick up the tab. Sad.

changedagain Wrote:
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> puddington Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > People who worship the “God in the sky” are
> often
> > ridiculed. It is the “Christ in the Flesh” that
> > really matters to LW leadership.
>
> true
>
> Girlsturnitoff:
> > The other day a Living Word childhood friend of
> mine/former YASPer/fellow
> >blow-out was traveling from Hawaii to LAX. When
> he arrived at the terminal he >recognized a man
> sitting alone at the hotel bar drinking a glass of
> champagne. >Low and behold it was Gary Hargrave
> (the Christ in the flesh)!
>
> I bet very people in the bar recognized that
> Christ was in their midst--let alone offer to pick
> up the tab. Sad.


How could barflies not recognized Gary as Christ in the Flesh? I asked myself. So I did a comprehensive google search. CA, puddington and Girlsturnitoff.... comprehensive. I searched faked Christ's today, fake Christ for the past 2000 years, how many Jesus are there? pastors that think I am Jesus, Men the Pope recogonizes as Christ in the Flesh, man claims to be Jesus this morning...and guess what? Hundreds of thousands have claimed to be Christ in the Flesh. But no Gary-man identified or listed ever, anywhere, on any website, not even on TLWF site. What have I concluded from my research. Gary Hargrave is not Christ in the Flesh. When I was in the LW, I did not have a voice. But now having a voice to speak truth to those who harmed me what do I say. As a starter I could say....Stop it Gary. You are not the real Christ in the Flesh. The JRS's apostle prophet pyramid of dictatorial powers has served you well in allowing you to perpetuate the LW's unscriptural interpretation of a Christ in the Flesh doctrine.

CHRIST in the flesh, not only applies to one, but applies to ALL. It is our flesh--not fearfully and wonderfully made--that obstructs our awareness that ONE CHRIST dwells within ALL.



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changedagain Wrote:
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> The Christ in the Flesh doctrine perpetuated in
> TLWF replaced a relationship with Jesus with a
> relationship with leadership. In fact, the idea
> that an individual can have a relationship with
> God apart from leadership was consistently mocked
> in the "living word." After all these years, it's
> obvious that this interpretation of scripture has
> been way off-base and crippling to people's
> lives. Good riddance to these false gods!

False Christs love only those who love and idolize them. They love those who further their agenda. They claim that no one can know Jesus except by obeying them. They are small people who control their disciples through ego, fear and secrecy. If a follower of one of these "Christs in the Flesh" becomes disagreeable in some way, they are accused of being a satanic channel. In contrast, Jesus the Son of God loves everyone, whether they love Him back or not.

John's doctrine of Christ Incarnate in the LW comes from the Latter Rain teaching we are gods just like the New Age Movement and many other cults.

This puts the Latter Rain squarely in the cross hairs of Jesus’ warnings: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect (Mat 24:24).



Here’s a summary of their teachings from Wikipedia:



The Latter Rain movement taught that as the end of the age approached, that the “overcomers” would arise within the Church. There was debate among various branches as to the nature and extent of this manifestation. These Manifest Sons of God, ones who have come into the full stature of Jesus Christ would receive the spirit without measure. They would be as Jesus was when He was on earth, they would receive a number of divine gifts, including the ability to change their physical location, to speak any language through the Holy Spirit, and would be able to perform divine healings and other miracles. They would complete the work of God restoring man’s rightful position as was originally mandated in Genesis, and at last by coming into the full stature of Christ usher in the millennial reign of Christ. Extreme versions of this spoke of Jesus as a “pattern” Son and applied (Ps. 82:6) “ye are gods,” to this coming company of believers.



Here’s the quandary and the question: When Mystics, Mormons, Masons, and New Agers- claim to be gods, we mark them . . . and avoid them (Rom. 16:17). So why do we refer to the Latter Rain loons as Christians when they do the very same thing? The nature of Gary's manifestation of god in him is minimal. None existent. Not the full stature of Christ. What divine gifts does Gary display? Can't think of any? That's my point. So why would I call him father. Or god. Or Christ in the Flesh.