NickleandDimed Wrote:
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> lily rose Wrote:
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> >
> > My addiction was JRS science
> > fiction stuff, you know the mystic and the
> > paranormal powers.
>
>
> Lily, you read my mind. Me too.


Ha

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Welcome howmidoing. I appreciate your openness in sharing what you've been experiencing and I am sure it resonates with many who read the message board. There have been a few posters who have disclosed they got therapy and maybe they will pm you or share about here. While I never got therapy, I do think it can be helpful.

howmidoing Wrote:
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>
> After some research, I am realizing that much of
> what I experience with emotional distress is
> completely compliant with other ex-cult members
> experiences of slowly healing. I am starting to
> look into cult recovery therapy. Has anyone here
> undergone any beneficial therapy?
>
> Has anyone else felt PTSD like symptoms?
>
> Thanks!


howmidoing, yeah, you're not alone. Someone I knew was falling down a black hole. Got therapy. Said it was beneficial. Saw the change. That it helped.

kBOY Wrote:
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> Prophets Of Oneness And Worship
>
> [www.garyandmarilynhargrave.com]
> hets-of-oneness-and-worship/
>
> (Efforts to pick off vulnerable Catholic youth
> have begun.)

Pretend to be open to the Catholic church in order to steal their youth for your own agenda. An ingenious way to replenish the stock. Again--no one should underestimate a wolf's craftiness.

changedagain wrote: “Pretend to be open to the Catholic church in order to steal their youth for your own agenda. An ingenious way to replenish the stock. Again--no one should underestimate a wolf's craftiness.”

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Exactly. They’re already used to a ‘one-person’ Pope leading the church. Now all that’s left is for g-wolf to slowly move in and conquer their spirits. The Biblical doctrine of free access to the Divine Presence by any whosoever will be subverted and g-wolf will become “the single point of entry for God and perfection in the otherwise imperfect universe.” Once the spiritual dependence is complete, then the demands for total-life-control and all the money can be put into full effect.

howmidoing Wrote:
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> Hello all,
>
> I've been trying to follow the threads here. I'm
> glad I found this discussion forum. I was born
> into S. California church and subsequently left
> CTLW (they combined for Sunday service while I was
> in my teens) about 16 years ago after getting
> married and moving 3000 miles away. It took me
> years to realize that CLTW was indeed a cult.
> Mainly b/c I started attending other Christian
> churches and slowly saw the way that members were
> treated and saw people were not shunned that had
> to leave for jobs or other reasons they were still
> treated as friends. Some repressed memories
> started to dawn on me once I was in a safe and
> secure relationship.
>
>
> I was actually confronted by someone in the new
> church about JRS & CLW being a cult. I was so
> ANGRY! I was in so much denial. But years later,
> after I wised up, I realized that getting away
> from my childhood, and the doctrine was why I took
> the first opportunity I had to get away. These
> people no longer cared about me (basically
> abandoned me) once I was not deemed to be
> following their prescribed tenants of behavior (ie
> submitting to my "Elijah" (pastor) every move I
> wanted to make.
>
> Luckily, I see it now for what it truly is. I see
> how they do nothing Christian as far as helping
> the poor or teaching the Gospel of Jesus and
> salvation of souls. It's simply about expanding
> their own reach, their own gospel and getting
> people into their church. It's not about Jesus at
> all.
>
> I thought I was completely over the pain I
> experienced. My life is pretty darn good; but I
> still struggle with deep depression and suicidal
> thoughts and other issues that crop up without any
> noticeable reason. I recently had a long
> conversation with a friend I went to school with
> at COL (they no longer subscribe either) - and I
> felt so much lighter and freer after being able to
> discuss our childhood and what had happened there.
> It was incredible, I didn't call her to talk about
> this at all but somehow it turned out that it was
> exactly what I needed to discuss with someone that
> UNDERSTOOD. I realized that it's something my
> friends I have made today could not possibly
> understand at all b/c they didn't experience it
> and have no frame of reference. I realize that
> even though I have dear friends, I have no one
> that I can talk to about my life before I left.
> And I notice that I still feel on the fringe of
> Christian and secular society and of my church
> now, I never feel like I can fully fit in. But I
> think this is what I was brainwashed to believe as
> a child.
>
> After some research, I am realizing that much of
> what I experience with emotional distress is
> completely compliant with other ex-cult members
> experiences of slowly healing. I am starting to
> look into cult recovery therapy. Has anyone here
> undergone any beneficial therapy?
>
> Has anyone else felt PTSD like symptoms?
>
> Thanks!


Hello,

Just wanted to say that I was born into the walk/fellowship so to speak, back in the 50's. I left around the 85/86 and went back around 2000, but left a little while after they shut down Grace Chapel. I don't know if anyone ever gets over it completely. Just remember that God loves you and no man has a right to tell you what to do. I would love to see a freedom for all the people in and out of the fellowship to happen.

"It's simply about expanding
> their own reach, their own gospel and getting
> people into their church."

They wouldn't need to be looking for people to come into the church if they didn't run everybody off.

howmidoing Wrote:
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> Hello all,
>
> I've been trying to follow the threads here. I'm
> glad I found this discussion forum. I was born
> into S. California church and subsequently left
> CTLW (they combined for Sunday service while I was
> in my teens) about 16 years ago after getting
> married and moving 3000 miles away. It took me
> years to realize that CLTW was indeed a cult.
> Mainly b/c I started attending other Christian
> churches and slowly saw the way that members were
> treated and saw people were not shunned that had
> to leave for jobs or other reasons they were still
> treated as friends. Some repressed memories
> started to dawn on me once I was in a safe and
> secure relationship.
>
>
> I was actually confronted by someone in the new
> church about JRS & CLW being a cult. I was so
> ANGRY! I was in so much denial. But years later,
> after I wised up, I realized that getting away
> from my childhood, and the doctrine was why I took
> the first opportunity I had to get away. These
> people no longer cared about me (basically
> abandoned me) once I was not deemed to be
> following their prescribed tenants of behavior (ie
> submitting to my "Elijah" (pastor) every move I
> wanted to make.
>
> Luckily, I see it now for what it truly is. I see
> how they do nothing Christian as far as helping
> the poor or teaching the Gospel of Jesus and
> salvation of souls. It's simply about expanding
> their own reach, their own gospel and getting
> people into their church. It's not about Jesus at
> all.
>
> I thought I was completely over the pain I
> experienced. My life is pretty darn good; but I
> still struggle with deep depression and suicidal
> thoughts and other issues that crop up without any
> noticeable reason. I recently had a long
> conversation with a friend I went to school with
> at COL (they no longer subscribe either) - and I
> felt so much lighter and freer after being able to
> discuss our childhood and what had happened there.
> It was incredible, I didn't call her to talk about
> this at all but somehow it turned out that it was
> exactly what I needed to discuss with someone that
> UNDERSTOOD. I realized that it's something my
> friends I have made today could not possibly
> understand at all b/c they didn't experience it
> and have no frame of reference. I realize that
> even though I have dear friends, I have no one
> that I can talk to about my life before I left.
> And I notice that I still feel on the fringe of
> Christian and secular society and of my church
> now, I never feel like I can fully fit in. But I
> think this is what I was brainwashed to believe as
> a child.
>
> After some research, I am realizing that much of
> what I experience with emotional distress is
> completely compliant with other ex-cult members
> experiences of slowly healing. I am starting to
> look into cult recovery therapy. Has anyone here
> undergone any beneficial therapy?
>
> Has anyone else felt PTSD like symptoms?
>
> Thanks!

Greetings newly found broken toy. We are all from the land of misfit toys. I would love to know more about your history in the walk like where you went to school etc. Church attended etc. Time frames help to undestand what level of BS you were exposed to as the BS type and depth certainly changed as the years went by. I have seen very little of the famous CTLW judgemental behavior on this board, perhaps because we are all seeking some therapy and closure.
Welcome and let's get past this crap together!
As a nod to the intended purpose of this site a message for all aspiring potential cult members:
If you don't want to be trolling some obscure BB (fifty years from now) looking for psychiatric help from others no better suited to give it than you, DON'T JOIN A CULT!

Darn it! Now you tell me. LOL

Tmason Wrote:

> As a nod to the intended purpose of this site a
> message for all aspiring potential cult members:
> If you don't want to be trolling some obscure BB
> (fifty years from now) looking for psychiatric
> help from others no better suited to give it than
> you, DON'T JOIN A CULT!


Hey, this message board had over 286,000 page views. IT IS A VIP SITE FOR THOSE SEEKING HELP FROM CULT CONDITIONING!!!!&*%!!!
Sorry if I'm getting a bit emotional.
;)

Tmason Wrote:
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> I have seen very
> little of the famous CTLW judgemental behavior on
> this board, perhaps because we are all seeking
> some therapy and closure.
>

I think you're correct. There's been little judgmental behavior, but it has and does happen. I wish there could be a strand just for the "little people." I think the participation and sharing would soar.

Lily, many individuals and families like Sandjt's were blown to smithereens. Heard men who left the fellowship, ex-ministries, talk about the rejected ones with little empathy. These men get together to rekindle the camaraderie they once knew as ministries. An addiction. I don't know if the little people experienced the same shared camaraderie and loyalty as the ministries. Sandjt's courage to speak out here might encourage the others blown to smithereens, but they will carefully weigh any risk of being judged again. That's what I did before posting. Very careful about what I post.



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