I remember when M started designating the wife as the spiritual leader of a marriage and that husbands were to submit themselves unto their wife. I remember the date, time, place where it happened to me. Part of the"pitch" to accept this was M telling my wife and I that she chose us because we were strong and could handle it.... once again it gave us the feeling of having M's approval I remember how Bill Maybe struggled with this. It ultimately drove him away from his marriage, church and son.
Looking back, as hindsight is always 20/20, this role reversal was designed to break the male spirit and establish M's stronghold as the spiritual leader. I remember G telling me how difficult it was for him. From the early days, I think M saw herself in an exhaulted way because she was the chosen one to bring forth the man of God that was going to bring forth the kingdom on the earth. I think she used the same principle with Gary.... he was the voice from the pulpit, but in reality, she directed him as to what the will of God was going to be.... shining bright the path as the Lamp of Israel....what a bunch of mind controling bunk!...just my humble opinion.
My wife and I came to see Marilyn as a "King Maker". She would help the one she latched onto and propel him to the top.
"Kingmaker" is also used in some countries to refer to those individuals with the ability to influence the selection of political leaders. The term though always unofficial, has tended to gain more importance in places of power struggle e.g. politics, sports organizations etc. Consequently, bestowement of such a title is looked upon significantly and more often as a means of indirect gratification for individuals wanting to silently dictate the affairs of the organization."
This is what has happened to tlwf. I was at the 1984 meeting in Sepulveda when she was choosing the men who would stand with her. They have become what we always tried to avoid: becoming like "Babylon". I heard the tapes where she directed marriages to break up. It was a big mess.
Way back in the early days whenever the phrase,"the living word" was used my wife and I always thought of God's Word (the scriptures), what we didn't realize until later is those who used it the most were speaking of the word, sermons, this weeks, and tapes from jrs. He was not the Christ, John the Beloved, or our Father in the heavens. However, regarding the posts seeking info about John. Was he a drinker? A womanizer? That's like focusing on the debauchery of the prodigal son, "Can you tell me more about those prostitutes?", rather than on the forgiveness, grace, and love of the father. John was a man whom God used just like He has used anyone of us. Different calling, different gifts, but the same Spirit.
Galatians 2:6 "As for those who were held in high esteem—whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not show favoritism—they added nothing to my message."
We have one Teacher, One Father, One Spirit, and we are all brothers. Once again those in leadership have given themselves over to exalt marilyn and gary the same way they exalted jrs. And now with gary reaching out to the catholic church it's all over, but the shouting. IMHO.
One thing we may find we might agree on today - is that when we are not rightly spiritually related to one another - as a member of a body of believers, as a church - there are going to be all kinds of things that we may experience, in our relationship with one another - as a result of not abiding in the Word of Christ, given to all, regarding the spiritual relationship, brothers in Christ have with one another - found in Matthew 23. 8-10.
Matt. 23: 8 But do not be called Rabbi, for One is your Teacher and you are all brothers.
.....for One is your Teacher and you are all brothers . No one is to allow his brother to relate to him spiritually , as being more than a brother.
1st. John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will Teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
Matthew 23:9 And do not call any one on earth your father, for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
We are not to look to or to spiritually relate to any person on earth, as being more to us than being our brother
Matthew 23:10 And do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader and that is Christ.
No one is to participate in a relationship spiritually with a brother , as being more to his brother - than being a brother.
..........for One is your Leader and that is Christ.
This is one explanation or reason - for " Why " we experienced, in our relationships with one another in the church, so many things that we did experience. As a result of those things we experienced - some of us, ( because of what we were experiencing) became aware that something was really wrong - with the spiritual relationship that our members in the church had with us, we with them and with the relationships all had with one another.