eric j pepin, higher balance , handbook of the navigator
Date: July 19, 2007 03:41AM
I'm amazed at some of the things written here. If this whole forum isn't biased I don't know what is. The very fact this place brands itself as a cult education forum makes it lean towards making whatever is posted here a cult by the mere fact it's being discussed here.
That people can also post here saying they know what was at the trial and then proceed to say whatever they want without question is also disturbing. Who is trying to control minds here?
What Heart was suggesting by saying johnblocksd is perpetuating slander is that what he is saying is not true. John said Pepin admitted to having sex with all seven of his male employee's.
That is not true. If you don't believe John it's because you don't believe everything just because some guy on a forum says it's so and in my book that makes you an intelligent, able-minded individual.
Eric Pepin testified he has had past relationships with 3 employee's. Count it, that's 3 out of 11. All of them prior to being employed, all of them monogamous. One of the people more than 10 years prior to being hired.
What is wrong with that? If he's willing to remain friends with an ex that long and wants to hire them, what business is it of yours or anyone else's?
The two male Higher Balance employee's who testified said they have never had any sexual contact with Eric Pepin, he's never suggested any such contact take place, and there's never been a problem with that.
You don't believe me? Good. Listen to the transcripts. It's there. Think for yourself. That's what Eric Pepin, this supposed cult master, says all the time in his courses. Question him, question everything.
You know what else is funny all these people who say they have listened to the court transcripts don't seem to want to talk about? The "Master" robe.
The accuser said he first met Eric in some robe with "Master" on it. It's been all over these news stories, if you want to call them that... yet when you listen to the trial guess what?
They had pictures of Eric getting the robe as a gift from an employee a year after this person met him. They even had a receipt. It was given by an employee who was a big student of martial arts and he testified he called all his teachers, "Master", and it was meant out of respect. He said Eric has never called himself that and has asked people not to call him that.
You know what the accuser said when he found out they had that evidence? He said the police got it wrong. That he never said he met him wearing that robe. He said instead it was a brown, fuzzy robe. Wow. How can you go from a black robe with "Master" written on it to something like that? He even testified when the news report came out he called the detective and told him he got it wrong.
The defense asked the detective that if they knew they got it wrong, and the accuser, Young, really did call them, why didn't they call the paper and retract the statement?
Because the whole "Master" robe meeting was all made up like the rest of this person's story. Made to seem dramatic.
For someone to say this case isn't about money is also amazing. Young asked Pepin for $500,000 to settle the case. Half a million bucks and this isn't about money? Come on.
If you also listen to the transcript, and not just say you have, you'll get to hear the initial set up call the police did between Young and Pepin.
Young, by the way, is a musical performer. He makes his living off acting in front of people and boy you can tell. As soon as Pepin answers Young turns on the water works and starts crying on the spot. If you have a bunch of police standing around you, how many people are going to be able to cry on cue like that?
In the recording, Young tells Pepin police came by the house asking about a story he told his mom about him and Pepin. He said he told them it wasn't true. Then Pepin says he wants the name of the detective so he can talk to him and that he's tired of helping Young and getting burned. This only confirms what Pepin is saying. If he were so worried about being guilty, why wouldn't he try and cover it up then and there? Why go out of the way and tell Young to give him the detectives information, heading straight to the police?
Because he had nothing to hide. Speaking of Young's mom, she testified that she considered the time he was working for Higher Balance as beneficial and noticed big improvements in her son. She also said he had a history of lying and she and other members of her family had banned him from their homes or helping him.
The last thing I find most amazing, that has also been left out from these people who have supposedly listened to the transcripts, is when Young first went to the police and filed a report it never mentioned anything about underage sex, at all. He didn't say a word about any of this alleged abuse that was said to have occurred.
Then he went and got a civil attorney. Suddenly, now that he has an attorney, the story changes and is all about abuse, and cults, and underage sex. How could the story change so much? Could it be that a civil attorney knows what it takes to win a civil case? Could it be that if Pepin were found guilty it would be an instant win for Young? Is it at all suspicious that the civil attorney he went to was a former District Attorney in the county where the charges were filed, someone who would still have connections and could pull favors? No, the US is much more fair and just then that right? Could never happen, except, oh the recent Duke case where the DA was found to be hiding evidence and making promises to get himself re-elected. But other than that, surely, there's a reasonable explanation.
Guess what the prosecution said about the sudden change in stories? The initial officer got it wrong. He misheard Young and wrote something completely different. The defense pointed out that this is a professional police officer. A person whose job it is to file accurate reports. To not miss any detail. Do you know what the officer who wrote the initial report said? He did his job. He got it right.
You don't like Eric Pepin, my guess is he's fine with that. Doesn't make it right to go around writing whatever you want and saying you've listened to the transcripts when you haven't. Have some common decency.