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Re: what cult were you in?
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: March 08, 2018 11:20AM

kajern
Our paths may have crossed. I was raised in Iowa as was jrs.

I am so sorry what happened to you. the fact We did survive does not fix the scars.

I have had a lot of therapy. But,Unless a therapist is familiar with cults I have not gotten everything thing I have needed. But, more and more therapists are being trained on this line.

I think there are some personal issues we need to address. Like why we were so vulnerable? Becasue if we don'g figure it ou we will be vivtimized again and again...I admit I fell for the same patterns of behavior and it was obivious that I would submit.

1. it is not your fault,
2.We can not change anyone elses behavior only our own behavior ( I used to hate that statement.)
3. we all have to take a look at if we were co-dependant (sorry I hate the fact that the co-dendant can end up "sicker" that that abuser...ugh! ) We are all responcible for our own choices. "No one can make us do anything we don't chose"..eh...to a point. But do NOT heap coal on your self. Forgive your self.
4. It is all too easy for someone on the outside looking in to see how 'wicked" the cult was.
5. Find others in your group to figure out how to not let this happend again.
( AS an exampe in the Cath church kids were being molested for for-ever . It was covered up. Hidden. No one did anything! But, the more people talked about th at waelthy church is being forced to make reparation. not good enough but it does send a message that help victims/ survivors get some closure.

I am uncomfortable with the fact that no one can make us do want we don't want to do. The problem is that where do we go? There may be no way out. I think that is at least one reason this cult ed patform exists.

I am not qualified to councel any one. I only share a fe tid bits I have learned

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Re: what cult were you in?
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: March 08, 2018 11:22AM

Chritian Tabernacle JRS home town church: Shiloh; the Walk: Church of the Living Word;

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Re: what cult were you in?
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: March 08, 2018 12:47PM

I was still recovering from The Walk when I met Grace Lucia Rose in Iowa City Iowa. She taught How to Be a Psychic classes through Kirkwood in '80' and '90's She tired to start up a new following in mid 2000's.

She gave psychic readings for $20 to regular clients. ( She laughed behind their back at the crap she made up.)
She gave metahsycial talks in local groups.

She worked in West High. Often ffeatured in the news paper. she and her husband Dutch Brooks worked in mental gorup homes and started a mental health organization ( The name changed after she left that.)

She had Balloons over Iowa.

At some point when she lived on Yewell she had a cult. Then she disappeared from the neighborhood. She apparently had psych break.

I knew about her. When she came back I ws introduced to her and did lunch with other old ladies. Very subtely she drew me in step by step with talk of heavenly love and turning with in to "talk to the Creator." Love bomb!

She claimed she was psychic adn sure looked liek it to me. I had no idea how she knew so much about me. ( Turns out she stole my keys and would go thru' my stuf , move it or steal it.)

Then she revealed she "chanelled angles". How did they know so much about me? ( She was stealing from my purse and In my apartment.) she wasa pretty good a body language reading with her psycology education.

I was used to prophsey in the Walk( which was bull as well)

"The world was coming to an end" and everyone including Grace was reading Revalations. She said the "angels wer strying eveil in order to understnad it so she adn I an 144,000 were ona mission to colelct data. We had our gaurdian angels watching us but coudl not interfer with the scenario. We were to kill the communion beings and destroy the earth for being evil. The book Ito weite ws to reveal the secrets for the 144,000 to go home."

Step by step love bombing me during an difficult time in my life. The angels told me who I was in "heaven" and "heaven" had another name and was not organized like the christian thinking. After the WAlk, I needed fellowship and she made sense esecially when I drank her tea that she would not drink.

She had me waiting on her hand and foot as she gave me hints of who she was very slowly. Then she had wanted to find Her 144,000 "heavenly spies" so I was ordered to write a book and she was listed as the co-author. I wrote it as fiction.

When the book did not make the best seller list the angels got angry. In a drugged sleep the "angels" beat me up." The "angles" did not know how to market nor did they bother to edit the book I typo-ed.

I pulled the book from distribuion,because I realized how dangerous it was when the readers wanted to find Grace to have the angles reveal...( they did not exist except in her organize delussions )... reveal who they were in the agolorical fictional heaven. The angels "appeared" to me when I was apparently drugged. She ws switiching my medications. No ownder they weren't working right. Of course when I asked for help I sounded crazy. I know I was not her only victim.

But there are printed copies out there that some time sell as collectors copies. I get no royalty. I can't get the book back.

Grace Rose Iowa City believes she is the "Creator". She was trying to form a new cult. She had had a large folowing before who all abandonded her and she meantlly snapped.

I fell into her delussion one step ata time just like all the people who met her her home on Yewell around the late 1980's and maybe the '90's.

I hope people did not find her. She phsycially hurt people, including former clients. She told me she had cut off a neighobr guys long hair. She got away with murder and no authority would listen.

I have no idea is she is still living or not.

I wrote glowing blurbs on her that I can not get back. I am sorry. I bleive a big fat liar.

Grace Rose is a con and thief in the night. She is shop lifter and pick pocket. So yeah, she will know things about you . She demands your undying love and devotion if only you follow her every whim. If you reject her.. well, she may have your keys. Change your locks.

To heal I have read what I can get my hands on about psycho paths, narasists; mind control; hypnosis; and cult followings.

I have watched video on how "faith healers" do their thing. Also being "slain in the spirit" has a trick to it. My martial artist son immediatley spoted the use of pressure points when his grand pa took him to pentacostal meetings. Grace used sme of the same techniques. The feel of "annointing" and the feel of strength of the " holy spirit' is nothing more than an adrenalyn rush. Faith healers ahve apatern of behavior as does an ilusionist or magician. Grace had tricks up her sleave.

i continue to research setting my self aside to discover how I had "gulliable" and "sucker" written across my forhead.

I regret having played a part in her trying to revive her cultish following. I was duped. I shoud have seen it. Grace has no empathy.

I had my land lord change my locks. Another woman, a former client of hers also complained that some one was in her apartment. The managemnet thought she was wrong. But the woman suddenly died along with several other former clients in my apartment complex. other former clients had seirous injuries that she had predicted everything. Grace had predicted waht woud hppen. they had "rejected her " and she was mad.
Poice, DA, psych dept at the U o I did not listen.

I moved to a relatives out of state. of course my unexplained vomiting and pain stopped. I was loosing 3 to 4 hours a day and that stopped. I did not hear voices nor hand groping me in the night any more. Nor do I have unexplained bruises and scratches. When I moved I did find evidence that she had been in my home.

it was hard to accept that most everything she did and said was a lie. the hardest part was to let go of my "guardian angel."

Another step in my healing and to keep other victims I have been working on a fiction book for 7 years to undo the damage of the first book that I can't get back. It may lead sheep astray. Researching the book and making up a story with thing is have learned is helping me heal.

Writing a journal may help others. Then rewriting how you want your story to happen the way you want may be a way to find some closure.

I know my story is crazy sounding. I was so stupid. But someone out there will know they have been there and been through the same thing. I hope my word will help.

I am grateful to be on this site.

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Re: what cult were you in?
Posted by: NancyB ()
Date: March 09, 2018 03:01PM

I know this post and thread is few years old. I find it interesting that so matter the cult the 1970's is mentioned often.

Another common thread is leaders came from Four Square. I iwll assumed most wer defrocked as they had more radica words that did not stay with in their established doctrine.

My late ex husbands grand father was four Square. As was my late ex father in law. The founder of the walk was defrocked from Four Squre. His father was a founding pastor of my local church home. I would think he was also Four Sqaure.

Coindence? or what may be the common link that influenced the desire to not follow the four Square doctrine?

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Re: what cult were you in?
Posted by: PDTOON ()
Date: April 19, 2018 10:49PM

Same church in Lake City FL different names: End Timers / Meade Ministries LLC / Mountain Top, Now the founders have died and the mafia enforcers left since they are no longer of importance, New name trying to be normal Community Christian Church something like that.

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