kabala center
Posted by:
irisedel
()
Date: May 28, 2005 02:08PM
Hi, I am new to this forum. I was looking for information on the Kabala Center, and found this great website, and I am still reading a lot here. There are a lot of issues i wonder about, with regards to this center, but i think that first i want to feel the grounds in this forum, and also i know the internet is not the best medium for these very complex and delicate matters. But, I am located in Israel, and did not find a safe group or setting to discuss my concerns. In 1991-2 I lived in LA, and have had a very sharp and dark experience with people associated with this center.
Later, i did not hear about it for years, until 2 years ago i was shocked to find out that my younger sister is deeply involved in this dangerous cult, and I was not aware of it. I never told her about it, or about what happened to me in LA, so I felt "haunted" by this coincidence/or not ?
Through her, my earlier suspicions with regards to this cult are reinforced, but i feel helpless to do anything about it, or even discuss my concerns.
The kind of ISraelis who are associated with this cult are mafia like, security associated, people, namely, quite dangerous and well connected with the establishment here, more so, the security establishment. It is not the type of crowd you want to mess with. However, despite my natural reluctance to deal with all this, i feel that my recovery and more so disengagement from this problem, outweighs my fear. I will not get into details here, and perhaps never at all, but would like to discuss some practical aspects of safety, recovery, and finding help wherever we are located.
Later, i did not hear about it for years, until 2 years ago i was shocked to find out that my younger sister is deeply involved in this dangerous cult, and I was not aware of it. I never told her about it, or about what happened to me in LA, so I felt "haunted" by this coincidence/or not ?
Through her, my earlier suspicions with regards to this cult are reinforced, but i feel helpless to do anything about it, or even discuss my concerns.
The kind of ISraelis who are associated with this cult are mafia like, security associated, people, namely, quite dangerous and well connected with the establishment here, more so, the security establishment. It is not the type of crowd you want to mess with. However, despite my natural reluctance to deal with all this, i feel that my recovery and more so disengagement from this problem, outweighs my fear. I will not get into details here, and perhaps never at all, but would like to discuss some practical aspects of safety, recovery, and finding help wherever we are located.
kabala center
Posted by:
simpkin
()
Date: June 02, 2005 05:02AM
Dear irisedel-
I am a journalist, and am very interested in exposing Kabbalah and their scary practices, especially now that celebrities are involved.
I am a journalist, and am very interested in exposing Kabbalah and their scary practices, especially now that celebrities are involved.
kabala center
Posted by:
jewels36305
()
Date: June 05, 2005 03:17AM
Irisedel,
I just heard about a book written by Steve Hassan about getting people out of cults. He goes through step by step how he "deprograms" cult members. I'm not sure the title but I think the book was written in 2002.
Steve Hassan also has a new book out called Combating Cult Mind Control. I have heard this book is very helpful and I plan to start reading it today.
The author is a former cult member so he understands what we all go through and knows what ex-cult members need.
Just some books that might help you at this time, and maybe help you help your sister.
Jewels
Disclaimer regarding Steve Hassan
The Ross Institute of New Jersey/May 2013
See [www.culteducation.com]
The inclusion of news articles within the Ross Institute of New Jersey (RI) archives, which mention and/or quote Steven Hassan, in no way suggests that RI recommends Mr. Hassan or recognizes him in any way.
News articles that mention Steve Hassan have been archived for historical purposes only due to the information they contain about controversial groups, movements and/or leaders.
RI does not recommend Steven Hassan.
RI has received serious complaints about Steve Hassan concerning his fees. Mr. Hassan does not publicly disclose his fee schedule, but according to complaints Steve Hassan has charged fees varying from $250.00 per hour or $2,500.00 per day to $500.00 per hour or $5,000.00 per day. This does not include Mr. Hassan's expenses, which according to complaints can be quite substantial.
Steven Hassan has charged families tens of thousands of dollars and provided questionable results. One recent complaint cited total fees of almost $50,000.00. But this very expensive intervention effort ended in failure.
Dr. Cathleen Mann, who holds a doctorate in psychology and has been a licensed counselor in the state of Colorado since 1994 points out, "Nowhere does Hassan provide a base rate and/or any type or accepted statistical method defining his results..."
Steve Hassan has at times suggested to potential clients that they purchase a preliminary report based upon what he calls his "BITE" model. These "BITE reports" can potentially cost thousands of dollars.
See [corp.sec.state.ma.us]
Steve Hassan runs a for-profit corporation called "Freedom of Mind." Mr. Hassan is listed as the corporate agent for that business as well as its president and treasurer.
RI does not recommend "Freedom of Mind" as a resource.
RI also does not list or recommend Steve Hassan's books.
To better understand why Mr. Hassan's books are not recommended by RI read this detailed review of his most recently self-published book titled "Freedom of Mind."
See [www.cultnews.com]
Steve Hassan's cult intervention methodology has historically raised concerns since its inception. The book "Recovery from Cults" (W.W. Norton & Co. pp. 174-175) edited by Dr. Michael Langone states the following:
"Calling his approach 'strategic intervention [sic] therapy,' Hassan (1988) stresses that, although he too tries to communicate a body of information to cultists and to help them think independently, he also does formal counseling. As with many humanistic counseling approaches, Hassan’s runs the risk of imposing clarity, however subtly, on the framework’s foundational ambiguity and thereby manipulating the client."
RI has also learned that Mr. Hassan has had dual-relationships with his counseling clients. That is, clients seeing Mr. Hassan for counseling may also do professional cult intervention work with him.
Professionals in the field of cultic studies have also expressed concerns regarding Steven Hassan's use of hypnosis and Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP).
Based upon complaints and the concerns expressed about Mr. Hassan RI does not recommend Steve Hassan for counseling, intervention work or any other form of professional consultation.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/10/2013 08:45PM by rrmoderator.
I just heard about a book written by Steve Hassan about getting people out of cults. He goes through step by step how he "deprograms" cult members. I'm not sure the title but I think the book was written in 2002.
Steve Hassan also has a new book out called Combating Cult Mind Control. I have heard this book is very helpful and I plan to start reading it today.
The author is a former cult member so he understands what we all go through and knows what ex-cult members need.
Just some books that might help you at this time, and maybe help you help your sister.
Jewels
Disclaimer regarding Steve Hassan
The Ross Institute of New Jersey/May 2013
See [www.culteducation.com]
The inclusion of news articles within the Ross Institute of New Jersey (RI) archives, which mention and/or quote Steven Hassan, in no way suggests that RI recommends Mr. Hassan or recognizes him in any way.
News articles that mention Steve Hassan have been archived for historical purposes only due to the information they contain about controversial groups, movements and/or leaders.
RI does not recommend Steven Hassan.
RI has received serious complaints about Steve Hassan concerning his fees. Mr. Hassan does not publicly disclose his fee schedule, but according to complaints Steve Hassan has charged fees varying from $250.00 per hour or $2,500.00 per day to $500.00 per hour or $5,000.00 per day. This does not include Mr. Hassan's expenses, which according to complaints can be quite substantial.
Steven Hassan has charged families tens of thousands of dollars and provided questionable results. One recent complaint cited total fees of almost $50,000.00. But this very expensive intervention effort ended in failure.
Dr. Cathleen Mann, who holds a doctorate in psychology and has been a licensed counselor in the state of Colorado since 1994 points out, "Nowhere does Hassan provide a base rate and/or any type or accepted statistical method defining his results..."
Steve Hassan has at times suggested to potential clients that they purchase a preliminary report based upon what he calls his "BITE" model. These "BITE reports" can potentially cost thousands of dollars.
See [corp.sec.state.ma.us]
Steve Hassan runs a for-profit corporation called "Freedom of Mind." Mr. Hassan is listed as the corporate agent for that business as well as its president and treasurer.
RI does not recommend "Freedom of Mind" as a resource.
RI also does not list or recommend Steve Hassan's books.
To better understand why Mr. Hassan's books are not recommended by RI read this detailed review of his most recently self-published book titled "Freedom of Mind."
See [www.cultnews.com]
Steve Hassan's cult intervention methodology has historically raised concerns since its inception. The book "Recovery from Cults" (W.W. Norton & Co. pp. 174-175) edited by Dr. Michael Langone states the following:
"Calling his approach 'strategic intervention [sic] therapy,' Hassan (1988) stresses that, although he too tries to communicate a body of information to cultists and to help them think independently, he also does formal counseling. As with many humanistic counseling approaches, Hassan’s runs the risk of imposing clarity, however subtly, on the framework’s foundational ambiguity and thereby manipulating the client."
RI has also learned that Mr. Hassan has had dual-relationships with his counseling clients. That is, clients seeing Mr. Hassan for counseling may also do professional cult intervention work with him.
Professionals in the field of cultic studies have also expressed concerns regarding Steven Hassan's use of hypnosis and Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP).
Based upon complaints and the concerns expressed about Mr. Hassan RI does not recommend Steve Hassan for counseling, intervention work or any other form of professional consultation.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/10/2013 08:45PM by rrmoderator.
kabala center
Posted by:
rrmoderator
()
Date: June 05, 2005 06:37AM
Probably the best most practical book written to date about cults is "Cults in Our Midst," by Margaret Singer--the preeminent cult expert of the 20th Century.
See [www.culteducation.com]
Also see [www.culteducation.com]
For addintional information on-line about cults see the following links:
[www.culteducation.com]
[www.culteducation.com]
See [www.culteducation.com]
Also see [www.culteducation.com]
For addintional information on-line about cults see the following links:
[www.culteducation.com]
[www.culteducation.com]
kabala center
Posted by:
sarahsplight
()
Date: July 06, 2005 11:57PM
Hello. Someone very close to me has joined Kabbalah Center of New York. Please let me know if you know of ex-members of this organization. They have ruined my life. Please help!
kabala center
Posted by:
ex-kabbalah
()
Date: March 05, 2007 05:41AM
Kabbalah center is destroying my life. I would like to speak to people who have family members and loved ones entangled in this devious cult.
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